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Date: Tue Feb 21 13:27:10 2006
From: michael.holstein at csuohio.edu (Michael Holstein)
Subject: Re: User Enumeration Flaw

That's called directory harvesting and it's hardly new. Most MTAs 
implement tarpitting of some sort, to limit VRFY or RCPT commands from a 
perticular IP to a certian threshold, before they start slowing them down.

There are also ways to silently drop (or accept with routing to 
/dev/null) a session for a recipient that isn't in an external database 
(eg: LDAP) -- and while this breaks the RFC, people do it anyway.

Ever looked at a Hotmail spam message? There will be 50 recipients ..

gbush@, hbush@, jbush@, kbush@, etc. the ones that bounce aren't real 
and get rejected. Those that don't come back get added as "valid" for 
the second round.

~Mike.

Dave Korn wrote:
> Mar.Shatz@...cation.gov.il wrote:
> 
>>whitehouse.gov          MX      100 mailhub-wh2.whitehouse.gov
>>noone@box:~$
>>noone@box:~$ telnet mailhub-wh2.whitehouse.gov 25
>>Trying 63.161.169.140...
>>Connected to mailhub-wh2.whitehouse.gov.
>>Escape character is '^]'.
>>220 whitehouse.gov ESMTP service at Sun, 12 Feb 2006 11:29:38 -0500
>>(EST) helo jojo
>>250 esgeop03.whitehouse.gov Hello [xxx.xxx.xxx.xxx], pleased to meet
>>you mail from:bob@....com
>>250 2.1.0 bob@....com... Sender ok
>>rcpt to:gbush@...tehouse.gov
>>550 5.1.1 gbush@...tehouse.gov... User unknown
>>rcpt to:president@...tehouse.gov
>>250 2.1.5 president@...tehouse.gov... Recipient ok
>>quit
>>221 2.0.0 esgeop03.whitehouse.gov closing connection
>>Connection closed by foreign host.
>>
>>User enumeration at the whitehouse
> 
> 
> 
>   Tell DHS at once!  What would happen if Al-Qaeda could figure out that 
> there was a president in the whitehouse?
> 
> 
>     cheers,
>       DaveK

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