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Date: Wed Apr 12 15:32:26 2006
From: piercede at pdx.edu (Dean Pierce)
Subject: Shell accounts

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Don't forget to spoof your mac first, and make sure there are no
surveillance cameras in the area, or people that would recognize you
:-p   It's always good to bounce around a bit (torwise etc) first as
well.  There is no true anonymity these days.  We live in the age of
information.  The goal is just to make it expensive enough to track
you down that no one cares enough to do it.

   - DEAN



poo wrote:
> use an unencrypted wireless network or crack one with wep using the
> auditor cd
> and laugh all the way to the bank
>
>
> On 4/12/06, *Joachim Schipper* <j.schipper@...h.uu.nl
> <mailto:j.schipper@...h.uu.nl>> wrote:
>
>     On Tue, Apr 11, 2006 at 11:48:41PM +0100, Ian stuart Turnbull wrote:
>     > Ha Ha. Yes, not a proper fiend hey. But I take it that I would
>     be anonymous
>     > technically.
>     > If I were to do it for real I'd probably set up an internet
>     connection in
>     > an assumed name complete with a fake bank account so there'd
>     be no one for
>     > the cops to berate, just the computer [with no logs] to kick.
>
>     Not leaving log files is not that easy. And it becomes harder when
>     someone can get physical access to install all sorts of nifty
>     add-ons.
>
>     Also, note that log files are only useful if the police arrive
>     with a
>     search warrant or something along those lines - the ISP will just
>     terminate the account, keep the money, and tell your friend to
>     f**k off.
>     It would be difficult to do something about this, especially
>     since the
>     ISP is likely able to wave around some logs of their own.
>
>     Come to think of it, that's one more log file that will be
>     difficult to
>     clear. Whether or not it is made at all depends on the ISP, and
>     mostly
>     on the domestic laws whereever you live.
>
>                    Joachim
>
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> --
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