full-disclosure - Re: blocking tor is not the right way forward. It may just be the right way backward.

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Date: Fri Jun  9 17:21:36 2006
From: michael.holstein at csuohio.edu (Michael Holstein)
Subject: Re: blocking tor is not the right way forward.
	It may just be the right way backward.

> But remember your rights stop when the rights of others start. So,
> if a give admin wants people who use Tor to be blocked from his
> particular site, it is his right. I might not agree with it, but
> I'll defend his right to do so. After all, it is his site. If he
> was to do that (and makes a clear statement that he is doing so),
> he will be loosing users perhaps, but it is his call.

As long as I'm not breaking into anything, there's nothing wrong/illegal 
with using anonmnity tools to access a public website. If you put 
something on the public internet for all to see, you can't complain 
about people trying to avoid your attempts to survail them.

> What rights do you have over other people's networks and sites ?
> What rights do you have to circunvect the decisions they made ?
> If you don't like what the way they are doing things, go somewhere
> else. No one is forcing you to stop using Tor or being anonymous.

Public Internet is just that .. Public. If I can't acccess said site 
with method #1, I can use method #2. If site says "you're using TOR, go 
away", I can use $random_proxy in $random_country and accomplish the 
same thing.

If you want to make your website private, don't put it on the Internet.

/mike.