full-disclosure - Re: Who is n3td3v?

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Date: Sun, 22 Oct 2006 02:46:45 -0500
From: <daylasoul@...h.com>
To: <full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>
Cc: 
Subject: Re: Who is n3td3v?

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On Fri, 20 Oct 2006 22:09:03 -0500 "Alice Bryson
<abryson@...efocus.com>" <abryson@...efocus.com> wrote:
>It's OK anybody start vulnerability research from script(php or
>perl),
>but it's not good for someone to stay at "script kid" level, huh?
>
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>mailto:clt@...g-labs.com
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>2006/10/21, Gadi Evron <ge@...uxbox.org>:
>> On Fri, 20 Oct 2006, Dr. Neal Krawetz wrote:
>> > On Fri Oct 20 15:49:53 2006, Gadi Evron wrote:
>> > >
>> > > Cool article, but n3td3v is not gobbles. For one, easy
>analysis shows he
>> > > is English.
>> > >
>> > >     Gadi.
>> >
>> > Thanks Gadi.
>> >
>> > However, I'm going to call you on this:
>> > 1. What "easy analysis" are you using?
>> >    I listed my approaches.  If you are using a different
>approach, I'd
>> >    like to hear what it is.  (I'm not trying to be
>argumentative -- I
>> >    want to learn.)
>> >
>> > 2. You said, "n3td3v is not gobbles".
>> >    Do you know for a fact that n3td3v is not Gobbles Security?
>> >    Or is this an interpretation?
>> >    If you know for a fact, then how do you know?
>> >
>> > On 1-Sep-2006, a new person controlling the n3td3v account
>appeared.
>> > He is likely English/Brit (based on the topics he posted).
>But I did not
>> > see enough text to analyze.
>> > The older n3td3v postings were by 3 people, not one person.
>> > (And primarily by three people -- a few postings were
>ambiguous and could
>> > indicate more people.)
>>
>> 1. He speaks Real English.
>> 2. He mentions UK currency.
>> 3. He said as much, speaking of UK issues.
>> 4. He gave his real name.
>>
>> Your analysis is amazing, and shows how these things should be
>done. But
>> misses that much. Gobbles was about fun, n3td3v took himself
>seriously
>> rather than just his goal of making the world a better place.
>>
>> Aside to that, yes, I know. But as I can't mention how, it's
>silly for me
>> to stick to anything but the above.
>>
>> >From the UK. Highly likely from the North of England or
>Scotland.
>>
>> Did you ever talk to n3td3v or ask him? Behind all that posted,
>he really
>> seems like a good guy with good intentions.
>>
>> Your analysis really is good, but it comes to no conclusions. I
>want to
>> advoid the "yes he is" "no he isn't" discussion that's to
>follow. View my
>> comments as "opinion".
>>
>> Why idolize people?
>>
>>        Gadi.
>>
>> >
>> >                                       -Neal
>> > Neal Krawetz, Ph.D.
>> > Hacker Factor Solutions
>> > http://www.hackerfactor.com/
>> > Author of "Introduction to Network Security" (Charles River
>Media, 2006)
>> >
>http://www.charlesriver.com/Books/BookDetail.aspx?productID=126130
>> >
>>
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