full-disclosure - Re: Shady bastards - CONFIDENTIAL (Terms of Services)

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Date: Fri, 08 Jun 2007 10:42:46 -0400
From: "J. Oquendo" <sil@...iltrated.net>
To: dcdave@....net
Cc: full-disclosure <full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>,
	Larry Seltzer <Larry@...ryseltzer.com>
Subject: Re: Shady bastards - CONFIDENTIAL (Terms of
	Services)

For those who didn't bother reading, technically, I can find a legal 
loophole with the TOS I wrote. Some of you who visited the TOS page, 
ended up (based on the timing factors I see in access_log) ended up 
right on my front door. Technically, you are now bound to pay. This to 
me is a case for arguing over the validity and use of broad terms and 
semi-uselessness of so called "e-contracts/e-agreements/e-signatures" 
and the likes. I think companies love the ability to state "this mail is 
confidential" knowing damn well someone will likely not think about the 
extent of that statement, then turn around and twisting terms for the 
sake of saving face. Its a dual edged sword, love it or hate it. As for 
the previous thread and original comments regarding email... Personal 
work should be left off of any network not OWNED, OPERATED by YOU the 
individual. It's already established that corporate property whether a 
paper clip or email is property of the company there are no if ands or 
butts about it at present time.

In funnier matters... "That's so broad it can't be considered legal... 
but usually will be" (From the TOS page)

*13. LINKS*

The Service may provide, or third parties may provide, links to other 
World Wide Web sites or resources. Because Infiltrated has no control 
over such sites and resources, you acknowledge and agree that 
Infiltrated is not responsible for the availability of such external 
sites or resources, and does not endorse and is not responsible or 
liable for any Content, advertising, products or other materials on or 
available from such sites or resources. You further acknowledge and 
agree that Infiltrated shall not be responsible or liable, directly or 
indirectly, for any damage or loss caused or alleged to be caused by or 
in connection with use of or reliance on any such Content, goods or 
services available on or through any such site or resource. You also 
agree that upon visiting the Service, you will pay the Service the sum 
of $100.00 per visit regardless if you visited the Service willingly or 
unwillingly. This can, may or may not include indecent redirection to 
the Service.

How's that for obsoleting a law in one swoop. I wonder if I should call 
a lawyer and sue all the corporations who visited me this morning... I 
could use some "Krispy Kremes", "Starbucks", tuition at UConn, Satellite 
systems, etc.  ;)

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