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Date: Mon, 02 Jul 2007 17:47:33 -0400
From: kefka <kefka@...inbeardsucks.com>
To: Mike Vasquez <mike.vasquez@...il.com>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: Best wireless card for packet capturing?

It's the same joke at work, most of us do not like Microsoft security 
but it keeps us employed (despite their efforts to taint the industry).
-----------------------
Mike Vasquez wrote:
> I think it was more as a statement regarding the maturity of security 
> tools on each platform.  for instance, for wireless, linux has far 
> more tools, and a wider variety, for that work, than windows, and the 
> tools have fewer limitations... and that's an opinion from an 
> mcse+i/mcdba/mcse:security.
>
> so more often than not, for research/security work: linux good/windows 
> bad.  not as a statement regarding which platform is better in 
> general, or more secure, etc.  just simply from the vantage point of 
> needed to do security work.
>
> On 7/2/07, *Stack Smasher* <stacksmasher@...il.com 
> <mailto:stacksmasher@...il.com>> wrote:
>
>
>     You have to understand the laptop and OS are just tools to obtain
>     whatever information you need. Linux and Window$ are just a way of
>     running applications to help you achieve your goal. Don't think of
>     Linux as "Good" and "Windows" as bad as far as security is
>     concerned. Its the mis-configured system and network in general
>     that make it insecure.  Not only that, windows keeps us security
>     guys employed ; )
>
>
>     -- 
>
>     "If you see me laughing, you better have backups"
>
>
>
>
>
>     On 7/2/07, * Joshua Ogle* < jdo24@...nell.edu
>     <mailto:jdo24@...nell.edu>> wrote:
>
>         Thanks for the input.  I'm not just starting out on capturing
>         packets or
>         anything -- after all, I'm doing research and writing about
>         something very
>         related -- it's just that in a Windows environment I know very
>         little
>         about how to do things.  I'm a Linux guy when it comes to this
>         kind of
>         activity and I know that it's typically very difficult to do
>         things
>         "right" as far as security testing goes in a Windows environment.
>         Unfortunately, given the circumstances of the research, I am
>         only able to
>         use a Windows-based laptop, but I've now found (thanks to a
>         contributer to
>         the list) a live CD which will help with get into a Linux
>         environment to
>         do the work.
>
>         Thanks again to you and the others for your input.
>
>         -Josh
>
>         > This is not the place to ask for a scooby snack or hand
>         holding without
>         > getting attacked with a flamethrower, try the link below.
>         They are very
>         > helpful to those just starting out.
>         >
>         > http://www.binrev.com/forums/
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         > --
>         > "If you see me laughing, you better have backups"
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         >
>         > On 7/2/07, Joshua Ogle <jdo24@...nell.edu
>         <mailto:jdo24@...nell.edu>> wrote:
>         >>
>         >> Heya,
>         >>
>         >> For some research I'm doing I need to capture packets using
>         my laptop in
>         >> a
>         >> public space.  What is the best wireless card for doing so
>         which will
>         >> work
>         >> with most of the packet capturing software on Windows, such
>         as Ethereal?
>         >>
>         >> Thanks in advance for the help.
>         >>
>         >> -Josh
>         >>
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>         > --
>         > "If you see me laughing, you better have backups"
>         >
>
>
>
>
>
>     -- 
>
>     "If you see me laughing, you better have backups"
>
>
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