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Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 14:18:02 -0400 From: Simon Smith <simon@...soft.com> To: "M. Shirk" <shirkdog_list@...mail.com> Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk, dailydave@...ts.immunitysec.com Subject: Re: [Dailydave] Hacking software is lame -- try medical research... Just like technology research (hacking)... but... if you are the one that finds a cure, you'll make your buck too. M. Shirk wrote: > There is more money to be made in the treatment of a disease, then > actually finding a cure. > > Remind you of anything? > > Shirkdog > ' or 1=1-- > http://www.shirkdog.us > >> Date: Fri, 21 Sep 2007 10:37:20 -0700 >> From: kristian.hermansen@...il.com >> To: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk; dailydave@...ts.immunitysec.com >> Subject: [Dailydave] Hacking software is lame -- try medical research... >> >> Some interesting discussion came up on some security lists this week >> and it got me to thinking. Yes, hacking software is lame. Cool, so >> you found some vulnerabilities in some widely distributed application, >> service, or OS and it is patched just as quickly. Why don't we spend >> our time and valuable energy researching cures for rare or popular >> diseases instead? For instance, my brother (Jon Hermansen) has a very >> rare disease called Langerhans Cell Histiocytosis. It is also better >> known as LCH. It can be identified as causing such further diseases >> as Diabetes Insipidus, which is also uncommon (not sugar diabetes). >> Have you heard of these diseases before? Let me educate you… >> >> General Information: >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Langerhans_cell_histiocytosis >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diabetes_insipidus >> >> Seven Part Video Series: >> http://youtube.com/watch?v=KkBRqZS8nfM >> http://youtube.com/watch?v=w1h6ZjxF-To >> http://youtube.com/watch?v=0ojbJpERlt8 >> http://youtube.com/watch?v=dzUqdYofMCQ >> http://youtube.com/watch?v=lNhzwNYhi0M >> http://youtube.com/watch?v=nY9DDEhShcE >> http://youtube.com/watch?v=5_8SEYyEZGI >> >> And even worse than this, a friend of mine who is a PhD student in >> Math at Berkeley has an even rarer disease known as Gaucher's Disease. >> This costs $550,000 / year to treat. That's a hefty bill every year >> (you make that much doing security vulns?), and some insurance >> companies might refuse to accept you due to "pre-existing" conditions. >> So guess what, my friend does not have health insurance and has not >> been treated for two years. A genius might die. That's ludicrous. >> >> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gaucher's_disease >> http://youtube.com/watch?v=0nX6QM5iVaU >> >> If we consider ourselves decent "hackers", why don't we put our >> efforts toward helping cure this and other diseases rather than some >> very simple programming vulnerability? Is it because then we would >> have to reinvent a whole new slew of tools and re-orient/re-educate >> ourselves to be successful? Think about it… >> -- >> Kristian Erik Hermansen >> _______________________________________________ >> Dailydave mailing list >> Dailydave@...ts.immunitysec.com >> http://lists.immunitysec.com/mailman/listinfo/dailydave > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > More photos; more messages; more whatever – Get MORE with Windows Live™ > Hotmail®. NOW with 5GB storage. Get more! > <http://imagine-windowslive.com/hotmail/?locale=en-us&ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_mini_5G_0907> > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ -- - simon ---------------------- http://www.snosoft.com _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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