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Date: Sun, 14 Oct 2007 19:49:11 -0400
From: "C Q" <kyle.c.quest@...il.com>
To: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: Why criticize security researchers? On the
	recent PDP case.

Nichego strashnogo anglijskij normal'nij vot tol'ko soderzhanie
poxozhe na propagandu :-)

Couple of reasons why people in the security industry
are somewhat critical of pdp...

1. Social engineering is 99% of an exploit it's pretty
much a given that people will question the plausibility
of a successful mass exploitation in a real world.

2. When somebody makes a claim that's totally off base
people will correct it. That's the whole idea of a community...
We share knowledge and help each other better understand
how things work. Some people (like pdp) are going
through "growing pains" in the security industry where
they try to interpret the world based on their limited
understanding and experience. Sometimes those
interpretations are incorrect. What is wrong in pointing
it out. Finding a 0day doesn't automatically make
somebody an all knowing security expert. It takes
a lot of time and experience to gain the proper
understanding of security.

CQ

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