Date: Tue, 12 Feb 2008 22:21:46 -0800
From: "Andrew A" <gluttony@...il.com>
To: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: "Andrew A" -> Benjamin Trott,
	Six Apart/Live Journal hacker, and belligerent anti-gay remarks?

"He wanted to meet me at the art gatherings in San Francisco's 20GOTO10, and
give me a piece of his mind"
Just to let everyone know, this is complete bullshit. I'd rather spend my
time fucking my wife than meet some faggot with aspergers syndrome. However
as a response to this post
http://archives.neohapsis.com/archives/fulldisclosure/2007-12/0376.html
he issued to me a challenge:
"What is your fucking name you piece of shit?  You lie to make up lies about
everything.  The Google / GMail bug thing was supposed to be somewhat of a
joke, and in fact, when I sent it, I meant to put bug in quotes, but I
lapsed.  The favicon issue is still funny though. However, you must be a
fucking pussy for ranting about me doing desktop support, which is another
fucking lie of yours.  You have no idea what work I have performed
professionally.  Do you know me?  No, you don't, so fuck off.  In fact, give
me your address and you will receive a beating the next time I see you out
on the town.  Given your gmail name, you must be a fat fuck, so it should be
easy to with my modest frame to dance circles around you."

I encourage everyone to revisit the Google/Gmail "all accounts vulnerable"
thread to see if they consider it a security vulnerability (it wasn't).

So you want to doxdrop, you little shit?

Kristian Erik Hermansen
567 237 4237

Everyone send their regards to Kristian's Dad, which seems to be the current
address for Kristian with major credit agencies, and he lived there as
little as six months ago (lol basement dwelling loser):
13 ORCHARD AVENUE
KINGSTON MA 02364

PS-- He is working another desktop support job and specifying his title as
security oriented on linkedin. LOL@...STEN HERMAPHRODITESEN

On Feb 12, 2008 12:13 AM, Kristian Erik Hermansen <
kristian.hermansen@...il.com> wrote:

> After the recent death of Justin Polazzo -- a dude who I only
> corresponded with over the net -- I noticed another post from "Andrew
> A", which touted some horrible remarks.  I don't know who "Andrew A"
> is, but he and I have had a running conversation publicly and
> privately.  He has proven to be quite immature.  I can offer some
> knowledge that he has provided to me privately to point at who it
> might be, but I make no guarantee to who the individual is.  It is
> merely from his mouth.  He wanted to meet me at the art gatherings in
> San Francisco's 20GOTO10, and give me a piece of his mind.  He called
> me a "pussy faggot" when I did not attend Christopher Abad's showing
> of ASCII art on those dates.
>
> Following is some insight that may help some people on this list track
> down who this "Andrew A" is.  It is a very sad day when we lose
> someone in real life and we must all rethink what is happening in our
> security community when people take pride in laughing at such loss of
> life.  The Internet may just be the flicking of electrons passing
> around in an invisible flux, but the people at the edge of our
> networks are real.  We must treat them with the same respect we would
> treat others with in person.  We must forgive.  We must forget.  We
> must do our best to unite our communities rather than divide them.  We
> have all made our own mistakes in the past, so let's continue our
> journey with a new goal -- that of trying to be good to one another in
> real life and online, despite its virtualness.  We must do that.  I
> have hope that we can accomplish decency online...
>
>
> http://www.kristian-hermansen.com/wordpress/2008/02/11/benjamin-trott-and-belligerent-anti-gay-remarks/
>
> Benjamin Trott is an American entrepreneur living in California. He is
> known for co-founding Six Apart (6 Apart, or 6A), which later
> purchased Live Journal. However, online, it appears that he may be
> acting under a pseudonym as "Andrew A" (gluttony@...il.com, gluttony).
>
> It all started back in December in San Francisco. An observation of
> mine regarding fetching favicon images in certain contexts, which many
> people I have spoken to consider a bug in some web browsers, turned
> into a flame-war on the full disclosure list and many accusations were
> flying. However, the discussion continued off-list privately where
> "Andrew A" continued with belligerent and even anti-gay remarks. It is
> just disgusting that someone of this stature would expend so much
> energy and hatred. I just want it to stop, but this person, whom I
> believe is Benjamin Trott, continues to harass me and it is
> unwarranted. Please stop and grow up "Andrew A" (gluttony@...il.com).
>
> The purported "Andrew A" claims to live at this residence, perhaps
> with his wife Mena G. Trott:
> 4338 26th street, San Francisco, CA
>
> His phone number appears to be (415) 821-2073. "Andrew A" should just
> quit this silliness and apologize. I felt the need to post this
> information in the case that others have been harassed by this
> individual.
>
> """
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> Date: Fri, 14 Dec 2007 14:14:30 -0800
> From: "Andrew A"
> To: "Kristian Erik Hermansen"
> Subject: Re: Mr. Andrew A"nonymous"
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> I live out of Orange County but I visit the bay for business and pleasure.
> No way am I gonna roll to Baysec or Berksec though. Do I look like a
> clueless wannabe faggot like you?
>
> I may be at the 20goto10 ansi show, but I'll definitely be at the buttes
> 20goto10 show. See you there. I'll introduce myself.
> """
>
> """
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> Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 11:00:01 -0800
> From: "Andrew A"
> To: "Kristian Erik Hermansen"
> Subject: Re: Mr. Andrew A"nonymous"
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> I didnt see you at either 20goto10 show. pussy faggot.
>
> 4338 26th street, san francisco
>
> ask for ben.
>
> fuck you.
> """
>
> """
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> Date: Sun, 10 Feb 2008 16:29:12 -0800
> From: "Andrew A"
> To: "Kristian Erik Hermansen"
> Subject: Re: Mr. Andrew A"nonymous"
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> That's my residence. I'm Ben. :D
>
> On Feb 10, 2008 2:32 PM, Kristian Erik Hermansen <
> kristian.hermansen@...il.com> wrote:
>
> > On Feb 10, 2008 11:00 AM, Andrew A wrote:
> > > I didnt see you at either 20goto10 show. pussy faggot.
> >
> > Chill out buddy. Way to hold a grudge. I was at Baysec, along with
> > Nate Lawson some Cloudmark guys and others. Where were you? :-)
> >
> > > 4338 26th street, san francisco
> >
> > And is this your residence or work?
> >
> > > ask for ben.
> >
> > Ben who?
> >
> > > fuck you.
> >
> > Right…you are so eloquent…
> > �C
> > Kristian Erik Hermansen
> > "Know something about everything and everything about something."
> """
> --
> Kristian Erik Hermansen
> "Know something about everything and everything about something."
>
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