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Date: Fri, 04 Apr 2008 11:47:54 -0400
From: Jason <security@...enik.com>
To: Micheal Cottingham <techie.micheal@...il.com>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: Fwd: Let's outlaw
 mass	securityconferencespamming its f****** gay

We are now close to this space being full circle. The next step is that 
the researchers will offer the vendor a chance to compete for the 
information on the vuln IP market and as a result winning vendors can 
choose to keep it to themselves...

Yep, Microsoft has won and we will soon be back to non-disclosure all 
around.

Micheal Cottingham wrote:
> I too have participated in ZDI as a researcher. It is a very good
> program, and both the company and the researcher get what they want
> out of the process. The company gets the time to fix the vulnerability
> before everybody else finds out, and the researcher gets the
> recognition (and some money) for their work. It is a win-win
> situation.
> 
> On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 10:28 AM, Ureleet <ureleet@...il.com> wrote:
>> ive dealt a bit with tipping point and their zdi.  how about you learn how
>> it works first, the come back and criticize it?  you obviously dont
>> understand the contest at cansecwest, or how zdi plays into it.  i was
>> there, it was a good conf.
>>
>> but you need to learn how it works before you go ranting about it....
>> again...
>>
>>

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