full-disclosure - Re: EUSecWest CFP Closes April 14th (confMay21/22 2008)

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Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 22:09:36 -0700
From: "Dragos Ruiu" <dr@....net>
To: "'n3td3v'" <xploitable@...il.com>, "'John Cartwright'" <johnc@...k.org.uk>
Cc: 'n3td3v' <n3td3v@...glegroups.com>, full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: EUSecWest CFP Closes April 14th
	(confMay21/22	2008)

Dude, since you've decided to babble at the security community, I'd suggest you
learn something about it before trying to re-work it. Calling, me, (heh) a big
company, and starting quixotic "revolutions" isn't a good use of this space.
Not that I don't love you plastering my conference name all over your rantings,
but even *I* am getting bored of this thread now.

cheers,
--dr

-----Original Message-----
From: full-disclosure-bounces@...ts.grok.org.uk
[mailto:full-disclosure-bounces@...ts.grok.org.uk] On Behalf Of n3td3v
Sent: Friday, April 11, 2008 3:56 PM
To: John Cartwright
Cc: n3td3v; full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] EUSecWest CFP Closes April 14th (confMay21/22
2008)

On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 11:31 PM, n3td3v <xploitable@...il.com> wrote:
> > On 4/11/08, n3td3v <xploitable@...il.com> wrote:
> >
> > > On Fri, Apr 11, 2008 at 10:51 PM,  <malix@...h.com> wrote:
> > > > vulnerability disclosures
> > >
> > > That's what the list is supposed to be for before e-commerce moved in.
>
> I'm calling for John Cartwright to drop Secunia as a sponsor and make
> the list be funded by public donations.
>
> If we don't, this whole e-commerce thing with this list is going to
> get worse and worse every year.
>
> There are tons of open source projects that manage to run off public
> donations, I'm calling for this to happen.
>
> We don't need Secunia or e-commerce to run and host Full-Disclosure...
> we can run it ourselves.
>
> This e-mail is being sent to John Cartwright directly, because we've
> got to stop profiteering on the list in every way possible.
>
> n3td3v
>

I see Full-Disclosure as the peoples mailing list, its not a clone of
Securityfocus and we shouldn't let it turn into such.

Keep the uniqueness of Full-Disclosure and have it run by public donations.

Reject profiteering.

I remember back in the day when Full-Disclosure was underground and
wasn't e-commerce oriented, its time to move it back to the peoples
mailing list funded by the people.

The industry think Full-Disclosure is a soft touch, unmoderated clone
of Securityfocus, think again.

People outcry on this list when we don't agree with something and
thats whats happening now.

Its time for a revolution to happen.

n3td3v

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