full-disclosure - Re: defining 0day

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Date: Sun, 20 Apr 2008 01:27:39 +0100
From: n3td3v <xploitable@...il.com>
To: coderman <coderman@...il.com>
Cc: n3td3v <n3td3v@...glegroups.com>, full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk,
	Gadi Evron <ge@...uxbox.org>
Subject: Re: defining 0day

On Sun, Apr 20, 2008 at 1:10 AM, coderman <coderman@...il.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Apr 19, 2008 at 5:02 PM, n3td3v <xploitable@...il.com> wrote:
>  > ...
>
> >  It doesn't matter how old it is, as long as no patch is available, it
>  >  will always come out of no where and pwn your ass.
>
>  again you show your ignorance.

No, you show yours by only reading the first sentence of my e-mail and
cutting the rest out which explained it all to you.

>  if you are aware of the risk, there are a multitude of mitigations,
>  outside of official vendor patches.

But from the computers point of view it doesn't care, if the
vulnerability is not patched by the official vendor then its still a
0-day.

>
>  if you are aware of the vulnerability, it is no longer 0day.

As I said in previous e-mail, *you* being aware doesn't matter to the
term 0-day, because its a reference to a threat level to a computer,
not the human mind and how many days ago the human became aware.

Its purely a mechanical term for the computer, not anything to do with
what humans think.

A computer doesn't count how many days ago, it counts in 0 and 1's, so
it doesn't count the days inbetween, to the computer there is only
0-day then patched is 1, thats what the reference is all about.

Regards,

n3td3v

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