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Date: Mon, 18 Aug 2008 08:43:11 -0400
From: "Peter Dawson" <slash.pd@...il.com>
To: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: [funsec] Internet attacks against Georgian
	web s ites

http://www.afcyber.af.mil/news/story.asp?id=123110806

seems the cybercommand is not ramping up..

On Mon, Aug 18, 2008 at 5:02 AM, <ff0000@...hmail.com> wrote:

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> There's no need as n3td3v got see-throught powa + thight pants
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> On Mon, 18 Aug 2008 02:23:36 +0200 William McAfee <sec-
> community@...goodhacker.com> wrote:
> >Would you mind elaborating on your actual evidence?  All I see is
> >logic,
> >but I do not see much hard fact.  I'm not agreeing, I'm not
> >disagreeing.
> >I'm just asking for clarification.
> >
> >On Mon, 2008-08-18 at 01:08 +0100, n3td3v wrote:
> >> By the way, Russian sites have been hacked as well. So why is
> >everyone
> >> only talking about the Georgian sites and infrastructure? If
> >Russian
> >> sites and infrastructure is down as well that means the Georgian
> >> government has hacked them, doesn't it Or does it? Or is the
> >whole
> >> thing just a false flag by the U.S government underworld to
> >infulence
> >> McCain and Obama as they are potentially coming in to the white
> >house?
> >>
> >> It seems to me that there is bias towards Russia in the security
> >> community and that people don't really care if Russia was
> >hacked,
> >> because the community seem to have already chosen who they like
> >and
> >> who they are going to support and who they are going to point
> >blame
> >> at.
> >>
> >> I don't think westerners have ever liked Russia, so as soon as
> >> something like this happens, folks straight away are bias
> >towards
> >> Russia.
> >>
> >> You've got to remember this could easily be a false flag cyber
> >attack
> >> to setup Russia to make them look bad while ramping up cyber
> >security
> >> as a national security agenda as Marcus Sachs
> >> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FSUPTZVlkyU says in the Youtube
> >video.
> >>
> >> The reasons for a false flag cyber attack is there, the evidence
> >has
> >> been put in front of you by n3td3v.
> >>
> >> This isn't just some false flag conspiracy, there are plausible
> >> reasons why this could be a false flag.
> >>
> >> In the video Marcus Sachs asked the audience for ways we could
> >make
> >> cyber security a national security agenda, false flagging
> >something
> >> like the Georgian and Russian websites and infrastructure is not
> >a way
> >> the government underworld might make cyber security a national
> >> security agenda?
> >>
> >> I call a false flag, and I find it suspicious that people are
> >only
> >> talking about the Georgian websites and infrastructure being
> >cyber
> >> attacked and not the Russian stuff as well.
> >>
> >> I would be interested in what answers the audience gave to
> >Marcus
> >> Sachs, but thats not in the video unfortunately.
> >>
> >> All the best,
> >>
> >> n3td3v
> >>
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