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Date: Sun, 24 Aug 2008 15:11:59 -0400
From: Ureleet <ureleet@...il.com>
To: n3td3v <xploitable@...il.com>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: Fwd: Hacker calls buddies overseas on U.S.
	government dime

ooh.  u got 1 word changed.  n3td3v wins!

On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 7:32 PM, n3td3v <xploitable@...il.com> wrote:
> On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 11:46 PM, James Matthews <nytrokiss@...il.com> wrote:
>> So one guy got caught. Many times people call on unprotected RAS servers but
>> thanks for the clarification between a hacker and phreak!
>>
>
> The "media" have been mass calling it hacker and hacking... in all
> comment systems i've monitored on the internet somebody has complained
> about it being called hacker and hacking when its really phreaker and
> phreaking.
>
> I'm glad that it hasn't been killed off in total by the media, and I
> hope journalists across the globe will think about the words they use
> before canceling out a whole underground subculture which existed long
> before the internet was around in mass.
>
> I think a lot of journalists just read The Associated Press report,
> and assumed AP knew what they were talking about and just copied over
> "hacker" into different feeder news outlets that eat off news wires
> such as AP.
>
> It wasn't just a buzzword misquote, it was a whole history and
> subculture the media have been blocking out internet-wide.
>
> Kudos to Elinor Mills for fixing the correction... Cnet News listens
> to feedback and makes editorial changes on the spot based on what
> their readers tell them.
>
> This is a big win for the scene and a big win for the community, and
> Kudos to n3td3v for keeping the media in check about certain stuffs.
>
> All the best,
>
> n3td3v
>
>> On Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 3:22 PM, n3td3v <xploitable@...il.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Cnet News cave into n3td3v pressure and change "hacker" headline to
>>> "phreaker".
>>>
>>> All the best,
>>>
>>> n3td3v
>>>
>>> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
>>> From: n3td3v <xploitable@...il.com>
>>> Date: Fri, Aug 22, 2008 at 6:05 PM
>>> Subject: re:Hacker calls buddies overseas on U.S. government dime
>>> To: send-us-news-tips@...t.com
>>>
>>>
>>> Its called phreaking and its a phreaker not a hacker...
>>>
>>>
>>> http://news.cnet.com/8601-1009_3-10023285.html?communityId=2114&targetCommunityId=2114&messageId=783700#783700
>>>
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