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Date: Sat, 25 Oct 2008 17:20:31 +0100
From: n3td3v <xploitable@...il.com>
To: waveroad@...il.com, full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: Time to patch Windows boxes with MS08-067

You can go here, http://sites.google.com/site/n3td3v/ (No phone
numbers though, sorry...)

On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 4:51 AM, waveroad waveroad <waveroad@...il.com> wrote:
> Wow, can you give me your pusher phone number ?
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> 2008/10/24 n3td3v <xploitable@...il.com>
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>> "we" (the community) shouldn't be playing into the hacker spirit of
>> things. by increasing your threat level publicly plays into the hacker
>> mind-set that they can *take over* and be causing problems on a wider
>> scale. we should be dampening the hacker spirit by not letting them
>> visually see anyone panicking or there being an increased level of
>> concern. don't give the overall aura that hackers can have an affect
>> on us, and that even though we might be working hard behind the scenes
>> in an increased level of busi-ness, this shouldn't be communicated
>> outward to the hacker community, as it gives satisfaction to the
>> hacker community as a whole that they are beating us down. its about
>> psyops against the enemy, not that the threat level is not there, just
>> don't communicate your fears and concerns outward to the hacker
>> community, not just to those hackers willing to take part in attacks,
>> but just everyone on looking and thinking, "look at them increasing
>> their threat level because of "hackers""... don't give them that
>> satisfaction and morale boost.---n3td3v.
>> On Sat, Oct 25, 2008 at 3:16 AM,  <Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu> wrote:
>> > On Fri, 24 Oct 2008 23:29:33 BST, n3td3v said:
>> >> as soon as you rate, threat level something, the bad guys have won...
>> >> its time to rethink public rating and threat levels.
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>> > No, the bad guys win if they manage to pwn or DoS one of my systems or
>> > users.
>> > Why do you think they win if we assign a threat level to something?
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