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Date: Mon, 22 Dec 2008 08:26:35 -0500
From: Ureleet <ureleet@...il.com>
To: n3td3v <xploitable@...il.com>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: o lookie, n3td3v is lying elsewhere now

robert lemos said his piece about you, in what?  2006? almost 3 years ago now?

when did dr krawetz do his?  2006?  again, almost 3 years ago.  get over it.

im not founding my basis for u on expectations set by them, i m
founding my basis for u on ur lies.

u say u r a badass hacker and a ethical hacker, yet u publicly threaten ppl.

u say u r a whitehat, yet u threaten ppl.

u claim to b at the forfront of the "scene" yet no 1 except ppl on
cnet and fd have heard of you.  most every1 dumps u 2 the deleted bin.
 i know i was 4 awhile.

in dr krawetz's paper, u were compared to gobbles, which at this
point, u should b glad u were.  at least gobbles has released
something.  hell even gobbles came out from behind the curtain and
told krawetz to fuck off.  even gobbles doesnt want 2 b associated w/
u.

u swore to b leaving the scene in 2006, and again in 2007, and again
in 2008.  in 2006 because u were moving into the "professional scene".
 yet, u havent actually moved anywhere.  u r still here pestering us
all.  u liar.

now u just sit back in ur moms house and shout lies and wild
accusations of which u have no proof whatsoever.. ripping off ppls
articles and passing them off as ur own news.

fuck u

On Mon, Dec 22, 2008 at 7:31 AM, n3td3v <xploitable@...il.com> wrote:
> Ureleet said:
>> o lookie, n3td3v is lying elsewhere now
>
> What have I lied about? It's Robert Lemos and Neal Krawetz who lied,
> but then people had an expectation of me because they believed the
> lies that they told. Then I get some idiot on full-disclosure called
> Ureleet complaining because I didn't live upto the expectations talked
> about in the Robert Lemos and Neal Krawetz smear campaign.
>
> You believe what you read in the media, it's a sad day for you Ureleet
> that I don't live upto your expectation of me, just because Robert
> Lemos and Neal Krawetz say something doesn't mean it's true. Maybe
> your anger that I don't meet your expectations of me should be focused
> at Robert Lemos and Neal Krawetz and not me.
>
> This is what it's all about with you on full-disclosure, an
> expectation you have of me because of Robert Lemos and Neal Krawetz.
>
> Please vent your anger to those parties who smear campaigned me and
> not I who has never lied about anything.
>

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