full-disclosure - Re: The war in Palestine

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Date: Sun, 04 Jan 2009 15:44:23 -0200
From: Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman <buanzo@...nzo.com.ar>
To: Avraham Schneider <avri.schneider@...il.com>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: The war in Palestine

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Well, if you'd really believed in afterlife / paradise / hell, we shouldn't worry, huh? :)

Indirect threats are very... funny.

Avraham Schneider wrote:
> Be careful of what you wish for.
> 
> On Sun, Jan 4, 2009 at 6:05 PM, Arturo 'Buanzo' Busleiman
> <buanzo@...nzo.com.ar <mailto:buanzo@...nzo.com.ar>> wrote:
> 
> The bloodshed is caused by idiot people, motherfuckers and things
> like that. Stop the damn religion
> of bein g an excuse for your country's desires, ok? Ig god existed,
> he'd probably be thinking about
> nuking the hell out of Earth.
> 
> Alaa Abdelwahab wrote:
>> Mikael
> 
>>> This opinion is causing the majority of the bloodshed in the
> world today.
> 
>> What is causing the bloodshed is the unjust arrangements that are
> tying to
>> be forced somewhere, the same like your example after the WW I.
> 
> 
>>> The argument can be made that Israel also tried peace, but it was
> responded
>>> with my bombings etc. Atrocities have been commited by both
> sides, this is
>>> an never ending argument. Both sides need to decide that they
> want peace,
>>> make sure they have representatives that also believe in this,
> and then
>>> they need to sit down and decide what to do, execute it and at
> the same
>>> time curb extremism in their own midst.
> 
>> What peace they have tried? Did they agree on the tens of UN
> resolutions:
> 
>> - Palestinian Refugees have the right to return to their homes in
> Israel.
>> (General Assembly Resolution 194, Dec. 11, 1948 )
>> - Israel's occupation of Palestine is Illegal. (Security Council
> Resolution
>> 242, Nov. 22, 1967 )
>> - Israel's settlements in Palestine are Illegal. (Security Council
>> Resolution 446, March 22, 1979)
>> - Palestinian have the right to Self-Determination. (General Assembly
>> Resolution 3236, November 22, 1974)
>> - Reaffirmation of a Palestinian State. (Security Council
> Resolution 1397,
>> March 12, 2002)
>> - The 1947 Partition plan of Palestine and the creation of Israel. (UN
>> General Assembly Resolution 181)
>> - Recommends Israel suspend its no-man's zone' in Jerusalem.
> (Resolution
>> 127)
> 
>> All above UN resolutions and other tens of other resolutions to
> deplores the
>> Israeli terror attacks against Lebanon/Jordan/Syria/Palestine/....
> were just
>> been ignored by Israel and instead they are just trying to force
> their own
>> view of peace, I don't call this peace.
> 
>> Maybe you have a different definition of the terror acts.
> 
>> When a man bomb himself and kills tens of civil ppl this is a
> terror act,
>> but also when a powerful country sends its troupes inside another
> country
>> and kills a thousands civil ppl this is a terror act as well.
> 
>> Don't tell me it is doing that to protect itself.
> 
>> To protect itself it should respect the UN resolutions. That
> should only
>> bring peace to the whole area and we all live in peace.
> 
>> What I believe is that the UN should force Israel to respect its
>> resolutions, the same way they did in Iraq and Yugoslavia.
> 
> 
>>> This is the current situation, it wasn't like this historically.
> Trying to
>>> argue that one side is evil by looking at latest developments is
> always a
>>> slippery road. You just before said that there were 5000 rockets
> launched
>>> in the past 8 years into Israel? Isn't that evil?
>>> This leads nowhere.
> 
>> As per the UN resolution which defined Israel as an "occupation
> forces",
>> that gives the right to the Palestinian to resist. Any way they
> see, and we
>> all should support them.
>> And as per the International Humanitarian Law "the Geneva
> Conventions", the
>> safety and securing a good life for the Palestinian ppl is the
>> responsibility of Israel.
> 
> 
>>> Force? As opposed to the parties involved here, I am writing/talking,
>>> instead of promoting bloodshed.
> 
> 
>> When I said "force YOUR" didn't mean you, sorry for the
> misunderstanding it
>> is my bad.
> 
>> Brgds...Alaa
> 
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