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Date: Sun, 22 Feb 2009 12:28:17 -0500 From: bobby.mugabe@...hmail.com To: pentesterkunt@...il.com, valdis.kletnieks@...edu Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk, scadasec@...s.infracritical.com Subject: Re: [SCADASEC] 11. Re: SCADA Security - Software fee's -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Mr. Kletnieks, This list's lack of usual moderation does not mean your opinion is either respected, welcomed, or desired by anyone. Like my father always says, "Give a nigger a podium and he'll rap for anyone. Give a white man a podium and he'll beat his chest like a primate and spew mindless propaganda to anyone that will listen with the hope that the senseless banter will impress those less intelligent than he." And you, my friend, are not black. - -bm On Sat, 21 Feb 2009 21:30:01 -0500 Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu wrote: >On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 09:24:29 EST, Smoking Gun said: > >> Ironically, your own quote"company"quote offered penetration >testing >> services at the insane pricing scheme of "we'll pentest0r joo >for free >> and if we find something you can pay us to find other holes!". > >And how, exactly, is that an "insane" pricing scheme? If you >think about >it for a bit, it actually makes quite a bit of sense - Snosoft >needs to prove >they're in fact good enough to be able to find the holes you're >paying them >to find, or it doesn't cost anything. > >That *sure* as hell beats paying $100K for a pen test, and then >finding out >that you hired a bunch of asswipes who can't find holes. -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Charset: UTF8 Version: Hush 3.0 Note: This signature can be verified at https://www.hushtools.com/verify wpwEAQMCAAYFAkmhivgACgkQhNp8gzZx3sjGjwQAr0ZyhPVzovGihp1qg2YibAZL3qCr a8X+eU0+AHRHMYOg0sUTchiO6C71HYJuO5RXjjpvEn/hZ2iVZJtBOlQzc9Qe4T6FnzQh sJBglaLzNPZ76MbjSt3NWYAywdGTwaBewP9pS2uQ5o//4TG2TYnk0//LOEhlczr382iq vJ+hFVU= =kvvJ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- -- Jumpstart your career with Six Sigma certification from top programs. http://tagline.hushmail.com/fc/BLSrjkqmwwuXrPPSCBMQsL6SmPWO0ctjPRzbD77FbGGeXcOSfIH6X4LFJZC/ _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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