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Date: Mon, 2 Mar 2009 23:57:27 -0500
From: Jason Starks <jstarks440@...il.com>
To: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: Apple Safari ... DoS Vulnerability

Grow up, really.

On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 11:41 PM, Valdis' Mustache <
security.mustache@...il.com> wrote:

> I would like to point out that I have been able to create a "hung"
> state in the Firefox browser by opening 30 simultaneous tabs pointed
> at http://www.welcometointernet.org/lawnmower/ and adding a 31st tab
> viewing http://www.hotrussianbrides.com.
>
> Also, I am not amused.
>
>
> Your humble servant,
> Ze Mustache von Kletnieks
>
> On Mon, Mar 2, 2009 at 10:29 PM,  <bobby.mugabe@...hmail.com> wrote:
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> > Dear Nick,
> >
> > You and Thierry Loller are wrong.
> >
> > - -bm
> >
> > On Mon, 02 Mar 2009 21:28:17 -0500 Nick FitzGerald <nick@...us-
> > l.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> >>Chris Evans to Thierry Zoller:
> >>
> >>> > Example
> >>> > If a chrome tab can be crashed arbritarely (remotely) it is a
> >>DoS attack
> >>> > but with ridiculy low impact to the end-user as it only
> >>crashes the tab
> >>> > it was subjected to, and not the whole browser or operation
> >>system.
> >>> > But the fact remains that this was the impact of a DoS
> >>condition,
> >>> > the tab crashes arbritarily.
> >>>
> >>> Eh? If you visit www.evil.com and your tab crashes, that's no
> >>> different from www.evil.com closing its own tab with Javascript.
> >>
> >>But what if www.evil.com has run an injection attack of some kind
> >>(SQL,
> >>XSS in blog comments, etc, etc) against www.stupid.com?
> >>
> >>Visitors to stupid.com then suffer a DoS...
> >>
> >>Yes, stupid.com should run their site better, fix their myriad XSS
> >>holes,
> >>etc, etc.
> >>
> >>But this is the Internet, so this "software flaw" can be leveraged
> >>as
> >>security vulnerability.
> >>
> >>I'm with Thierry on this...
> >>
> >>
> >>Regards,
> >>
> >>Nick FitzGerald
> >>
> >>
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