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Date: Fri, 6 Mar 2009 12:09:19 -0500
From: Rubén Camarero <rjcamarero@...il.com>
To: Jeremy Brown <0xjbrown41@...il.com>, full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: List of Fuzzers

Dont satisfy this idiot with a response, thats what he likes.. Everybody
knows Petie is a troll on every list just use google

On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 10:56 AM, Jeremy Brown <0xjbrown41@...il.com> wrote:

> The reason anyone writes a fuzzer is to find bugs. Those that I have
> written are of course for the same purpose as the 101 listed: to find
> security bugs. Your ideas are as meaningless and unhelpful as they
> have been in the past. You have no goal but to troll and try to make
> people look like fools, but you are clearly the ignorant one.
>
> What have you ever written? Let us see some of your code to poke fun
> of. If it is as imperfect as you then we'd have a day of fun.
>
> >What's hilarious is that none of them are usefull :)
>
> http://www.milw0rm.com/author/1531
> http://www.milw0rm.com/author/1835
>
> 90% of the research above were found by fuzzing, and those are public.
> Clearly my fuzzers are useful.
>
> >You should really learn the protocol you want to fuzz, and develop a
> >strategy before you create anything else.
>
> Although mistakes are inevitable, and seeming how the stuff I write
> are pretty coherent to the protocol, your statements, once again, are
> unjustifiable. The strategy is simple: gather points of input, fuzz
> them, and watch for exceptions. Obviously.
>
> >Every fuzzer you've made use the SAME way to ""fuzz"" for differents
> > app/protocol.
>
> Because using a fuzzing oracle is a very good way to identify security
> bugs. Throwing random data will surely find lots of programming
> errors, but I want a shell.
>
> > The only change i see is your last fuzzer .. written in a different
> > language, but still the same way ...
>
> Yeah, I wrote it in C, and implemented a fuzzing oracle that way. I
> probably put 100 hours into it, and it gave back some nice return. As
> like the others.
>
> So, "what ever your real name is", I will continue to write fuzzers
> and exploits. If you comments are meant to bend my attitude or
> research rather than to troll, you don't have a chance, so get on with
> your life and I will get on with mine. What a conclusion.
>
>
> On Fri, Mar 6, 2009 at 10:22 AM, Pete Licoln <pete.licoln@...il.com>
> wrote:
> > What's hilarious is that none of them are usefull :)
> > You should really learn the protocol you want to fuzz, and develop a
> > strategy before you create anything else.
> > Every fuzzer you've made use the SAME way to ""fuzz"" for differents
> > app/protocol.
> >
> > The only change i see is your last fuzzer .. written in a different
> > language, but still the same way ...
> >
> > 2009/3/5 Jeremy Brown <0xjbrown41@...il.com>
> >>
> >> That is hilarious LOL!
> >>
> >> On Thu, Mar 5, 2009 at 11:14 PM, Pete Licoln <pete.licoln@...il.com>
> >> wrote:
> >> > 11 fuzzers matchs for Jeremy Brown on this page LOL !
> >> >
> >> > 2009/3/5 Krakow Labs <krakowlabs@...il.com>
> >> >>
> >> >> Krakow Labs maintains a current list of security driven fuzzing
> >> >> technologies.
> >> >>
> >> >> http://www.krakowlabs.com/lof.html
> >> >>
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-- 
Rubén Camarero
CCNA, CISSP

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