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Date: Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:50:54 -0400 From: mac.user@....hush.com To: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk, rjcamarero@...il.com Subject: Re: nVidia.com [Url Redirection flaw] -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 dude... off list... "fuera de la lista" ? Can anyone help us overcome this language barrier? On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:46:02 -0400 Rubén Camarero <rjcamarero@...il.com> wrote: >Perhaps. > >On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 3:39 PM, <mac.user@....hush.com> wrote: > >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> Are you even aware that you've been arguing with me? Perhaps we >> should move this discussion off-list, so we don't annoy the rest >of >> the bugtrackers... >> >> On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:34:32 -0400 Rubén Camarero >> <rjcamarero@...il.com> wrote: >> >I am only stating that the bug posted here isn't serious. I >agree >> >with you >> >on the other issues, more or less anyways. >> > >> >On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 3:30 PM, <mac.user@....hush.com> wrote: >> > >> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> >> >> nvidia has a poor track record with security. I'm citing two >> >> examples. One is on their website, and one is in their >drivers. >> >> Can you cite anything they have done right? Your effective >> >arguing >> >> strategies makes you a top nominee for Gadi Evron's no- >swearing >> >> event at defcon. >> >> >> >> On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 15:27:09 -0400 Rubén Camarero >> >> <rjcamarero@...il.com> wrote: >> >> >That example has nothing to do with this particular bug. >Using >> >> >multiple >> >> >exclamation or question marks does not help your ineffective >> >> >argument, >> >> >either. >> >> > >> >> >On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 3:15 PM, <mac.user@....hush.com> >wrote: >> >> > >> >> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> >> >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> >> >> >> >> With all due respect, my corned beef and sauerkraut >smelling >> >> >> friend, I am simply pointing out that when it comes to >> >security >> >> >> nvidia is clueless. Do you not remember the great debacle >of >> >> >2006 >> >> >> when Rapid7 showed off remote kernel exploitation of the >> >nvidia >> >> >> driver by webbrowser? http://kerneltrap.org/node/7228 >should >> >> >> refresh your memory. 40 million lost credit cards but at >> >least >> >> >> they put nvidia in their rightful place and have their >> >> >priorities >> >> >> in order. And speaking of security concerns and nvidia, >why >> >do >> >> >you >> >> >> think Microsoft didn't use nvidia in their trusted gaming >> >> >platform >> >> >> xbox360???? Everyone in our industry knows that nvidia is >> >shit >> >> >for >> >> >> security, even their javascript sucks!!! >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 14:45:46 -0400 Rubén Camarero >> >> >> <rjcamarero@...il.com> wrote: >> >> >> >If ATI and nVidia were web content developers, this may >be a >> >> >valid >> >> >> >argument, >> >> >> >but they are not. They are graphics vendors, hardware and >> >> >> >software. Not to >> >> >> >mention the fact that this isn't a "serious" issue. RFI >is a >> >> >> >serious issue, >> >> >> >IMHO. >> >> >> > >> >> >> >On Tue, Mar 24, 2009 at 1:37 PM, <mac.user@....hush.com> >> >wrote: >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- >> >> >> >> Hash: SHA1 >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> I have been saying for years that ATI is better than >> >nvidia >> >> >and >> >> >> >> here is just one more reason! You don't see serious >> >issues >> >> >like >> >> >> >> this with ATI's website. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> On Tue, 24 Mar 2009 10:13:21 -0400 Lorenzo Vogelsang >> >> >> >> <vogelsang.lorenzo@...il.com> wrote: >> >> >> >> >Hi all, i'm new to the list. I'm an italian student >who >> >> >likes >> >> >> >> >security >> >> >> >> >topics in the I.C.T world.. >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Browsing the nVdia web sites, i have found a very >basic >> >Url >> >> >> >> >redirection >> >> >> >> >flaw. Infact when downloading a driver i get Urls like >> >this: >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>http://www.nvidia.com/content/DriverDownload/download_confirmat >i >> >o >> >> >n >> >> >> >. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>asp?kw=&url=http://us.download.nvidia.com/Windows/179.48/179.48 >_ >> >n >> >> >o >> >> >> >t >> >> >> >> >ebook_winxp_64bit_beta.exe >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >and connecting to this another Url >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>>http://www.nvidia.com/content/DriverDownload/download_confirmat >i >> >o >> >> >n >> >> >> >. >> >> >> >> >asp?kw=&url=http://www.google.it >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >will redirects succefully to www.google.it! (or other >web >> >> >site >> >> >> >of >> >> >> >> >your >> >> >> >> >choice , or downloadble content..) >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Enjoy! >> >> >> >> > >> >> >> >> >Lorenzo Vogelsang. >> >> >> >> -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- >> >> >> >> Charset: UTF8 >> >> >> >> Version: Hush 3.0 >> >> >> >> Note: This signature can be verified at >> >> >> >https://www.hushtools.com/verify >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>wpwEAQMCAAYFAknJGmEACgkQfuF4tUz/X+KtEQP/fg36QI6yY9Hw6Q5eOsLUBGtP >j >> >g >> >> >9 >> >> >> >/ >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>kxEmlsVdQl23h92FU75bHiOHhDMo7nLMCbHH7HHZDMvEw05OCDBaOqTx54xyTHBa >y >> >H >> >> >4 >> >> >> >s >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>>>xf4joU8LSrTOFrklgT7tGXr+AMIfi4ypgIXzRv6Gx0vD3EAKIR3KWL4qFtg/OahH >k >> >l >> >> >7 >> >> >> >q >> >> >> >> jOiz888= >> >> >> >> =2MOh >> >> >> >> -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> >> >> Can't pay your bills? 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