full-disclosure - Re: [funsec] phishing attacks against ISPs (also with Google translations)

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Date: Fri, 27 Mar 2009 00:07:54 -0400
From: T Biehn <tbiehn@...il.com>
To: Rubén Camarero <rjcamarero@...il.com>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: [funsec] phishing attacks against ISPs (also
	with Google translations)

Ruben,
Lets try to stay on topic here, the status of my job full time troll
or otherwise is of little consequence...

Let me bring you up to speed: Gadi is trying to establish a link of
causality between Google enabling machine translation and an increase
in 'ruinous activity' in that language. Furthermore he aspires to make
this link of causality 'useful' in some way.
Valdis has brought up a rather dubious suggestion that it might be
worthwhile to use linguistic profiling on the text, should it be
reversible (and it's my guess that machine-translations loose too much
information...) in order to, presumably, run some sort of surveillance
scheme.
I mean, Ruben, the humor is there just to spice the post!
I could simply just cut and dry deride their ideas and comments but
that wouldn't be too kind, would it?

Best wishes, my undying love and admiration,

-Travis

2009/3/26 Rubén Camarero <rjcamarero@...il.com>:
> Do trolls get paid minimum wage or better, like telemarketers? Are they head
> trolls that whip and train the little ones on how useful google and
> unmoderated lists are under your NJ headquarters? Or do all of you fucks
> steal wifi while you give and receive, ironically, jobs that require the
> same orifices that you use during trolling, also under a bridge?
>
> ELABORATATION GO!
>
> On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 11:25 PM, T Biehn <tbiehn@...il.com> wrote:
>>
>> Absolutely,
>>
>> We can use the infallible word 'periodicity' statistical analysis
>> (which depends on the minutia of word selection, grammar, and sentence
>> structure, which would totally survive the machine translation
>> process) pioneered by pseudo-scientists in this recent millenia!
>> After building a large database of profiles from social networking
>> websites, where they'll hopefully write in the same engineered tone,
>> we can then find their twitter accounts, and then find out what latest
>> evil schemes they have planned.
>>
>> Yes yes all very useful insights here, please keep them coming.
>>
>> -Travis
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 26, 2009 at 10:08 PM,  <Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu> wrote:
>> > On Fri, 27 Mar 2009 02:35:30 BST, Gadi Evron said:
>> >
>> >>       3. The imperfect Hebrew looks like a machine translation.
>> >
>> > It would be interesting if somebody were to reverse it and find the
>> > English that resulted in the imperfect Hebrew, and then do some
>> > forensics
>> > on that input text to try to ascertain the original source.
>> >
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>
> --
> Rubén Camarero
> CCNA, CISSP
>

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