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Date: Tue, 12 May 2009 08:39:18 +1000
From: silky <michaelslists@...il.com>
To: Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu
Cc: full-disclosure <full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>
Subject: Re: Major Greek bank sites with SSL vulnerable to
	XSS and open redirects

On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 5:59 PM,  <Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu> wrote:
> On Mon, 11 May 2009 16:19:49 +1000, silky said:
> > On Mon, May 11, 2009 at 10:33 AM, Paul Schmehl <pschmehl_lists@...rr.com> wrote:
>
> > > Everything is insecure by default. There is no such thing as secure by
> > > default. Those that assume there is are the first to be hacked.
> >
> > cute (old) opinion, but fairly useless in practice.
>
> Not useless at all.  I'll bet you that if you go look at banks that have
> gotten hacked, at least 75 to 80 percent of them have "we thought the firewall
> was secure by default" or similar failure.

He was talking specifically about programming languages and so am I.

You can laugh and say 'all insecure' or you can actually look at what
does what and make educated decisions.

-- 
noon silky

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