Date: Sun, 12 Jul 2009 13:03:29 +0000
From: opt opt <opternaut@...il.com>
To: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: AntiAntiSec / Endgame

So today, I've learned:

1. The government now writes threatening emails implying an abundance
of illegal activity (which is odd considering the subject of the rant)
2. Tor doesn't work, even with a trusted endpoint (uh oh...)
3. Anti-sec is giving up valuable mirror time in the name of hacker evangelism
4. People still use undernet

Does anyone know a good security mailing list?

On Sun, Jul 12, 2009 at 7:03 AM, T Biehn<tbiehn@...il.com> wrote:
> MIXED METAPHORS ABOUND. SHODDY EDITING, WRITING, PREMISE.
>
> YOU'D THINK THE ILLUMINATI / CIA / NSA / SKULL AND BONES / 'JEWS'
> WOULD HAVE BETTER WRITERS THAN THIS.
>
>
> On Sat, Jul 11, 2009 at 12:55 AM, AntiAnti Sec<antiantisec@...il.com> wrote:
>> Dear Antisec,
>>
>> We regret to inform you that your movement will be short lived. You see,
>> while you have stated that you would "rm everything", we can do much worse,
>> and have. You seem to think that all of us are corporate people, but the
>> security industry encompasses many, many fine folk, from the largest
>> corporations, to the blackest of the black operation. We have seen things
>> and done things in our careers that we can never say. We have used time on
>> supercomputers that you have never, ever seen, much less heard of. In some
>> of our worlds, the term "contractor" doesn't mean what you think it means.
>> And we have subpoenas and guns.
>>
>> Gone are the days of rehabilitating criminals to lead a productive life. In
>> the early days, we needed people like you. We needed talent, and we didn't
>> care where we found it. Getting caught wasn't a "game over" moment for many,
>> simply because those people taught us things. And we learned rapidly. The
>> Internet is no longer a pet project, but essential to many folk's way of
>> life. And we use it for communication, for business, and yes, even to
>> protect little snots like yourselves.
>>
>> We no longer need you. We now have the skills in our ranks to perform the
>> same magic that you do. We teach these skills to our military. The concepts
>> of electronic warfare forged by you in the 1990s are now our Standard
>> Operating Procedure, only 1000 times more in depth. We can exploit
>> vulnerabilities in the name of this country, and we do. We protect what we
>> were sworn to protect.
>>
>> This is your notice, antisec. You thought that you could get away with your
>> little imagehack escapade. You think that hiding in a hushmail account will
>> save you... who do you think owns hushmail? You think your friends are
>> trustworthy. Look around you, and look again, and tell us who is now
>> missing. This was not an accident. And it is sad that such talent had to go
>> to waste, but you insisted.
>>
>> Your encryption will not help you, and your little phone calls have not gone
>> unnoticed. Disposables don't work. We don't need warrants anymore, haven't
>> you heard? Let's not even talk about your harddisk... it's not clean at
>> all.  Even secure wiping of your files is no longer viable because we can
>> get it all back now. We can prove your deeds, and we can put you where
>> wastes of talent belong. And don't think that private TOR will save you, and
>> don't think that stashing your toys works, we KNOW where they are. We KNOW
>> where you are.
>>
>> And the best part? We didn't need to bring the might of the Republic down on
>> you to know these things... one of your own told us all that we needed to
>> know. Heed the words, "Look! and Look again!".
>>
>> Armed response teams are standing by. We will come get you when it's
>> convienent for us. Some of us are early risers... and we get more done
>> before 6AM than you could ever understand.
>>
>> One last thing... We can promise you won't end up being dubbed a
>> "terrorist", because that is too easy for you. There is nothing more brutal
>> in this country than a nice American prison, especially for skinny
>> longhairs, and bookworms. We can promise that you live a nice long life in
>> there, because we spend the money to keep you healthy. In the name of your
>> debt to society, there is no way out.
>>
>> Your days are over. Remove everything, it only adds to the mountain of
>> evidence we have already. And leave these folks alone, they are doing their
>> jobs... instead of robbing hardworking Americans.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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