Date: Thu, 19 Nov 2009 19:02:47 +0300
From: yaroslav <ambivalenced@...il.com>
To: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: Impersonation is a against the law.

stopped reading full-disclosure about a year ago, most of the
discussions was about netdev. now resumed my subscription:  still a
lot of talks about netdev. I'm glad that our constantly evolving
universe has such islands of stability and predictability. but it's a
pity that these islands populated mostly by netnev.

> kaibelf escreveu:
>> List,
>>
>> It has come to my attention that my client is being impersonated.
>>
>> Securityfocus slandered n3td3v in 2006 causing him to drop out of
>> university.
>>
>> n3td3v hasn't been the same health wise since he was targeted by
>> Securityfocus and HackerFactor.
>>
>> n3td3v has had breakdowns from being accused of being a troll or
>> accused of being involved with trolls.
>>
>> It was hurtful for n3td3v to be labelled a "security troll" after
>> his years of dedication to fighting cybercrime and reporting
>> intelligence to vendors.
>>
>> It's also been hurtful that individual users of Full-disclosure
>> mailing list have targeted him in calling him a troll, everything
>> n3td3v has said is sincere and is nothing to do with trolling.
>>
>> n3td3v was wrongfully banned from Full-disclosure mailing list
>> after anonymous users decided to write emails with false truths
>> about n3td3v, to upset n3td3v to get a reaction out of him.
>>
>> There is now a problem with people pretending to be n3td3v and
>> pretending to be speaking on behalf of him, this is a really
>> damaging situation for n3td3v.
>>
>> n3td3v has been unable to share his home grown computer skills with
>> anyone due to the personal attacks which have affected his personal
>> life.
>>
>> n3td3v began in 1999 where he learnt how hackers worked and learned
>> the tools of the trade, he quickly used his knowledge to pass
>> useful information to yahoo about folks who were trying to
>> compromise them.
>>
>> n3td3v went onto Full-disclosure mailing list after a fall out with
>> a Yahoo engineer who had used n3td3v's information about hackers to
>> get further up the corporate ladder at yahoo.
>>
>> n3td3v left Full-disclosure mailing list in 2006 to gain official
>> qualifications at university, and by October Securityfocus and
>> HackerFactor wrongfully post slander about n3td3v.
>>
>> n3td3v began to think he was being followed in real life such was
>> the psychological impact of a good guy being talked about as a bad
>> guy by Securityfocus.
>>
>> n3td3v couldn't take the pressure anymore and dropped out of the
>> university course which would have made him a security professional.
>>
>> It was n3td3v's only chance to get a career in information
>> security, now ruined by the folks from Securityfocus, HackerFactor
>> and individuals from Full-disclosure mailing list.
>>
>> n3td3v returned to Full-disclosure mailing list after dropping out
>> of university to try and clear his name but was set upon by
>> anonymous users who claimed the n3td3v group was fake.
>>
>> The list administrator of Full-disclosure mailing list took sides
>> with the anonymous users who were claiming n3td3v was a troll and a
>> liar, the list administrator publicly addressed n3td3v and banned
>> him.
>>
>> After n3td3v was banned from Full-disclosure mailing list in 2009,
>> anonymous users started to impersonate him, and claim they were
>> speaking on behalf of him to further damage his reputation.
>>
>> In 2009 n3td3v deleted the n3td3v group (the mailing list for the
>> n3td3v group on Google Groups) as the personal attacks continued to
>> plague his integrity.
>>
>> n3td3v remains unemployed as of 2009 and is still suffering
>> psychological problems socially and is unable to lead a normal life.
>>
>> n3td3v is unable to work due to lack of official qualifications and
>> the personal problems he has due to the personal attacks placed
>> upon him, n3td3v however without official qualifications is a very
>> capable candidate for a future role in the information security
>> industry.
>>
>> It's a sad case, let's hope in future we don't treat our young
>> people in a way that they can't shine to show their talents.
>>
>> Stop Cyberbullying
>> http://www.stopcyberbullying.org/
>>
>> What is Cyberbullying
>> http://www.direct.gov.uk/en/YoungPeople/HealthAndRelationships/Bully
>> ing/DG_070501
>>
>> Laugh at it and you're part of it
>> http://yp.direct.gov.uk/cyberbullying/
>>
>> Wikipedia entry on Cyber-bullying
>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyber-bullying
>>
>> False statements made by Securityfocus
>> http://www.securityfocus.com/news/11419
>>
>> False statements made by HackerFactor
>> http://www.hackerfactor.com/papers/who_is_n3td3v.pdf
>>
>> --------------------------------------------------------------------
>> -------
>>
>> About Andrew Wallace:
>>
>> Q: How did you get into Cyber Security?
>> A: From 1999 I learned knowledge on how hackers operate and the
>> tools of the trade, soon I had learned enough to start passing
>> useful information to Yahoo security representatives on hackers who
>> were trying to compromise them.
>>
>> Q: Why did you start the n3td3v Google Groups group?
>> A: From 2004 I started the n3td3v group to act as a central hub for
>> open source intelligence items.
>>
>> Q: I invited people from the Full-disclosure mailing list to
>> utilize the information.
>> A: It worked pretty well with the user interface, I ended the group
>> 2009 as it was unclear who it was providing open source
>> intelligence to.
>>
>> Q: Who were the subcribers of the group?
>> A: The group was pretty mixed, I had folks from the private and
>> public sector on there, pretty much a cross section of the security
>> community.
>>
>> Q: Are you a hacker or security researcher?
>> A: I would say I was a security researcher, although I do pose as a
>> hacker sometimes to get information out of people.
>>
>> Q: Was that the reasoning behind calling yourself n3td3v?
>> A: Pretty much, it was used in the beginning days to get
>> information out of folks by posing as a hacker. The name caught on,
>> and decided to stick with it to name the Google Groups group with.
>>
>> Q: What are you up to these days?
>> A: I've moved on with my interest. I would like to get into a
>> national security role now as a natural progression of what I've
>> been doing the whole time.
>>
>> Q: Have you been approached for a job in national security?
>> A: Not so far, although you never know what might happen in the
>> future.
>>
>> Q: Did you enjoy the bad press from SecurityFocus?
>> A: That was pretty much out of order what happened, I don't know
>> the reasoning behind what they did.
>>    I guess SecurityFocus were interested in me, so wanted to know
>> more about me.
>>

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