full-disclosure - Re: Software developer looks at CRU code

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Date: Mon, 30 Nov 2009 17:58:07 -0600
From: Paul Schmehl <pschmehl_lists@...rr.com>
To: Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu, full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: Software developer looks at CRU code

No, Valdis.  There *is* no saving us.  We are hostage to our environment, and 
nothing we do or don't do will change that.  We can make less or more of an 
impact on our environment by being good stewards, but in the final analysis one 
large metorite or one Kracow can change the earth's environment in less time 
than it takes us to think about what we can do to improve it.

Ask the people of New Orleans how much good their levees did them.  Or the 
people around Mt. St. Helens how much all their preparations helped.

It is only man's hubris that makes him think that he can change the earth's 
environment in any significant way, for better or for worse.

Note that I am *not* saying that we should do whatever we like.  I firmly 
believe we should do the best we can to take care of the earth to the best of 
our capabilities.  But to think that we could stop the oceans from rising ten 
feet by controlling our emissions is the heighth of arrogance and foolishness. 
We could bankrupt the world economy and the oceans would still rise ten feet, 
if that's what's going to happen (not that I think for one minute that they 
will.)

--On Monday, November 30, 2009 15:31:21 -0600 Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu wrote:

>
> On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 15:06:46 CST, Paul Schmehl said:
>> Recent evidence shows that the globe is again cooling
>
> So the CO2 emissions are the only things saving us, right Paul?
>
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fallen_Angels_%28science_fiction_novel%29
>
>

-- 
Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst
As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions
are my own and not those of my employer.
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"It is as useless to argue with those who have
renounced the use of reason as to administer
medication to the dead." Thomas Jefferson

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