full-disclosure - Re: Ubuntu Lucid Lynx is Big brother Ubuntu

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Date: Thu, 25 Feb 2010 22:43:54 +0000
From: Mark Shuttleworth <mark@...ntu.com>
To: John Q Public <johndoetron@...h.ai>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: Ubuntu Lucid Lynx is Big brother Ubuntu

On 25/02/10 22:28, John Q Public wrote:
> wtf is this.
>
> A centralized identity system?
>
> In an open source operating system? By default?
>
> You're going overboard here. You're just a rich trustfunder and
> your proles are afraid to say you're making a huge error.

Just a tip: when you're giving advice that you want to be heard, try not
to insult the other guy before you get to the advice ;-)

> I never asked for my OS to become this big chatroom filled with a
> bunch of autistic, idiotic facebook kids. I can't stand that.

Look, you can't expect me to be accountable for who you follow on
Twitter, or who your Facebook friends are. Nothing's going to show up on
your desktop that you didn't sign up for.

> Ubuntu one? Chatroom accounts? Online, Invisible? You're turning
> the default Ubuntu into your huge autistic chatroom.

We're bringing social interaction from the web, into the desktop. We're
breathing life back into the city center, as it were. We're making the
desktop more human. This is our mission, our reason for loving what we
do. I'm sorry if it offends you, but it's got many people int he
community very excited. There's no commercial conflict of interests here
- we're putting it in by default purely to delight users. I accept that
you're not delighted, but I don't see any signs that this won't be one
of the favorite things about the release, for most users.

If it turns out not to be the case, either before or after we make the
release, we can course correct in six months time.

> Disable this, or name it teenbuntu.

I'm not sure why you think you can issue orders to me.

> You are integrating this immature stuff into a Long Term Support
> version of Ubuntu.

Yes. The Ubuntu team won't integrate it if they don't think it's ready.
They wanted it for 9.10, but it wasn't ready. Now it may be so. Please
do file bugs, and thank you for the feedback. If the general feedback we
get, including yours, suggests it's not right or not ready, it won't ship.

> Desktop or not, I don't want to be forced into
> your schema and big brother "social tray icon". Remove it by
> default. Make it available via the software center.
>
> Please fix this, you're making a big mistake. Other than that, I'm
> extremely excited for Lucid Lynx.

Well, you can remove it yourself. And I won't be offended if you do.

Thanks for the feedback, keep happy,
Mark

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