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Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 16:06:19 -0500
From: Marsh Ray <marsh@...endedsubset.com>
To: Juha-Matti Laurio <juha-matti.laurio@...ti.fi>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: KHOBE - 8.0 earthquake for Windows desktop
 security software


Nice research! Thanks hmatousec.com for putting up the hard work of
testing all those products.

Anyone else notice the connection with the Systrace badness from a while
back?
http://www.watson.org/~robert/2007woot/
'Exploiting Concurrency Vulnerabilities in System Call Wrappers'

Perhaps Windows AV developers need to get out more.

- Marsh


On 5/13/2010 3:04 PM, Juha-Matti Laurio wrote:
> Some AV vendors have posted their 'is-the-game-over-or-not' type
> response.
> 
> F-Secure: http://www.f-secure.com/weblog/archives/00001949.html
> 
> Trend: 
> http://countermeasures.trendmicro.eu/you-just-cant-trust-a-drunk/
> 
> Sophos: 
> http://www.sophos.com/blogs/gc/g/2010/05/11/khobe-vulnerability-game-security-software/
>
>  ESET: 
> http://www.eset.com/blog/2010/05/11/khobe-wan-these-arent-the-droids-youre-looking-for
>
>  Juha-Matti
> 
> Jeffrey Walton [noloader@...il.com] kirjoitti:
>> 
>> Hi , Also known as a TOCTOU binding flaw (thanks GDM). 
>> http://nob.cs.ucdavis.edu/bishop/papers/1996-compsys/racecond.pdf
>> (dated 1996).
>> 
>> Jeff
>> 
> On Wed, May 5, 2010 at 3:14 AM, www.matousec.com - Research
> <researchmatousec.com> wrote:
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> We have found number of vulnerabilities in implementations of
>>> kernel hooks in many different security products.
>>> 
> --clip--
> 
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