Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 15:58:30 -0400
From: T Biehn <tbiehn@...il.com>
To: "Thor (Hammer of God)" <Thor@...merofgod.com>
Cc: "full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk" <full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>
Subject: Re: Congratulations Andrew

So what grants you legal access to aol.com (HTTP port 80 get / )?
I'm confused? Does search engine indexing grant legal access to online
resources?

-Travis

On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 3:34 PM, Thor (Hammer of God)
<Thor@...merofgod.com>wrote:

> By the same logic, then yes you would.  Which is why the statement “if a
> system has no password, then you have a legal right to whatever data is on
> it” is complete horse hockey.
>
>
>
> Don’t take technical advice from your lawyer, and don’t take legal advice
> from people on security lists.
>
>
>
> t
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> *From:* full-disclosure-bounces@...ts.grok.org.uk [mailto:
> full-disclosure-bounces@...ts.grok.org.uk] *On Behalf Of *wilder_jeff
> Wilder
> *Sent:* Wednesday, June 16, 2010 11:56 AM
> *To:* full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
>
> *Subject:* Re: [Full-disclosure] Congratulations Andrew
>
>
>
>
> By that same standard.. if you leave your house unlocked.... does that give
> someone the right to enter it?
>
> just my thoughts
> ------------------------------
>
> Date: Wed, 16 Jun 2010 19:58:27 +0200
> From: uuf6429@...il.com
> To: tbiehn@...il.com
> CC: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk; Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu
> Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Congratulations Andrew
>
> Reminds be of Al Capone and tax evasion ;-)
>
> Good ol' America.
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 7:49 PM, T Biehn <tbiehn@...il.com> wrote:
>
> Yes.
> The FBI was investigating the AT&T incident, presumably the AT&T incident
> was what the fed were serving against.
> What possible valid search warrant could be executed? There was no hack,
> breach, illegal access of data, or anything else for that matter.
>
> If you leave a system online with no password which allows you to scrape
> content you have a legal right to scrape that content.
>
> -Travis
>
>
>
> On Wed, Jun 16, 2010 at 11:10 AM, <Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu> wrote:
>
> On Wed, 16 Jun 2010 10:09:22 EDT, T Biehn said:
>
> > I doubt the search warrant will hold up in court.
>
> Do you have any actual basis for saying that?  Sure, the warrant might be
> bullshit, it might be solid - the article doesn't give us enough info
> either
> way to tell.
>
> "Auernheimer was also arrested in March for giving a false name to law
> enforcement officers responding to a parking complaint."
>
> Sad.  The dude may have the intelligence to pull the hack, but not have the
> wisdom to not dig a hole deeper. Just man up and take the frikking parking
> ticket. ;)
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