full-disclosure - Re: [funsec] The Economist, cyber war issue

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Date: Wed, 7 Jul 2010 00:20:52 -0700
From: coderman <coderman@...il.com>
To: "Tomas L. Byrnes" <tomb@...neit.net>
Cc: funsec@...uxbox.org, full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk,
	Joel Esler <joel.esler@...com>, Gadi Evron <ge@...uxbox.org>
Subject: Re: [funsec] The Economist, cyber war issue

On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 7:36 PM, Tomas L. Byrnes <tomb@...neit.net> wrote:
> ....
> I strongly disagree. Since the vector of source attack against most CI
> is from the "great unwashed" protecting the "great unwashed" from being
> turned into zombies, or at least, if they are zombies, from being
> controlled, is a major public benefit.

cite your sources. we're talking warfare against critical
infrastructure here, not cyber crime or security theater. "i can use a
single keystroke to take down the grid and collapse civilization!"

you're never going to secure the great unwashed.*

i challenge you to cites sources justifying your assertions!

> There's even a patent app on it, owned by AT&T: USPTO app 20060031575

i'm more a fan of their mobile telco on a truck kits. to each their own...
(you can mitigate a flood with some smart switches, but no logic can
repair a modest synchronized DWDM outage nor match its practical
impact.)

* i reserve the right to re-evaluate this statement of truth after the
32bit time_t debacle in 2038. until then this is a conservative
assessment.

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