Date: Thu, 09 Dec 2010 10:23:10 +0000
From: mrx <mrx@...pergander.org.uk>
To: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: Firefox Addon: KeyScrambler

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On 08/12/2010 11:30, Tim Gurney wrote:
> Hi
> 
> This seems to contradict itself somewhat. A plugin to firefox should
> have no way to encrypt things at a driver level within the kernel, that
> would require installing seperate software at the root level, a plugin
> should not be able to do this and i would be VERY worried and surprised
> if it could as it would mean bypassing the security of the OS.

I tried installing this plugin to Firefox 3.6.12 in a virtualbox XP32(SP3) environment and it is incompatible.
I may wait for an update to the plugin and analyse its behaviour, providing my curiosity doesn't wane in the meantime.

I am not a professional, I do this kind of research as a hobby and for educational purposes, when I have some free time.


> Also if the driver is encrypting the key strokes and the plugin is
> decrypting, what about all the keystrokes that are not in firefox, like
> email, word processing, programming, there is nothing to decrypt these
> so you would end up only ever being able to use firefox on the machine
> and nothing else every again.

The devs do state that it only encrypts keystrokes in Firefox and not other applications, although they do sell a version that supposedly works
"in over 160 browsers and applications".
> 
> personally I would not touch this with a barge pole and I would do a lot
> more more digging and checking into this.

Yes, I am sceptical of claims, hence the post to this list.



> regards
> 
> Tim


Thanks for your input
Dave.


> 
> On 08/12/10 11:12, mrx wrote:
>> Hi list,
> 
>> Is anyone familiar with the firefox addon KeyScrambler? According to developers this encrypts keystrokes.
> 
>> Quote:
>> "How KeyScrambler Works:
>> When you type on your keyboard, the keys travel along a path within the operating system before it arrives at your browser. Keyloggers plant
>> themselves along this path and observe and record your keystrokes. The collected information is then sent to the criminals who will use it to
>> steal from you.
> 
>> KeyScrambler defeats keyloggers by encrypting your keystrokes at the keyboard driver level, deep within the operating system. When the encrypted
>> keystrokes reach your browser, KeyScrambler then decrypts them so you see exactly the keys you've typed. Keyloggers can only record the
>> encrypted keys, which are completely indecipherable."
> 
>> Can this be trusted? As in trusted I mean not bypassed.
> 
>> Input from the professionals on this list would be much appreciated.
> 
>> Thank you
>> regards
>> Dave
> 
> 
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