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Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 15:27:25 -0800
From: Andrew DeFilippis <andrewdefilippis@...il.com>
To: runlvl <runlvl@...il.com>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: [VIDEO] Keylogger, RecordMic and Shell

Even though I am not an established Security Professional, I would like to
make a comment regarding your software.

I generally only donate to people/companies that produce software which I
can see/experience.  Unfortunately, your software is being released with the
stipulation that a person donate first, then test/experience it second.

I know as well as almost everyone else, that running costs and bandwidth for
your website cannot be very expensive, especially considering the massive
amount of low cost VPS providers available to host your content.  Two people
donating would cover most VPS hosts for one to two months.


Essentially, I am wondering whether you can/will release the software for
the public to test, and then if they decide to continue using it and/or
decide that they want to support you, they can then donate.


Andrew R. DeFilippis


On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 11:07 AM, runlvl <runlvl@...il.com> wrote:

> Steve, Insect Pro 2.0 is redistributable and I even talked with Microsoft (
> they called me ) about that and there are no issues when it comes to
> copyrights.
>
> Ruby, Python, Metasploit and Our exploits are redistributables.
>
> Again, thanks for your time and interest!
>
> If you have any further question please let me know about it by email
> info@...ecurityresearch.com !
>
>
> Juan Sacco
>
> --
> _________________________________________________
> Insecurity Research - Security auditing and testing software
> Web: http://www.insecurityresearch.com
> Insect Pro 2.0 was released stay tunned
>
>
>
> 2011/1/26 Steve Pinkham <steve.pinkham@...il.com>
>
>> On 01/26/2011 01:40 PM, Juan Sacco wrote:
>> > Thanks again, dont forget to donate because you didnt!!!! But Im ok with
>> > that :-)
>> >
>>
>> For clarity, the $20 was for a unmetered, 100Mb/s VPS so I could make
>> good on my part of the deal if you weren't lying about it being free.
>>
>> I haven't given you any money, and don't plan on it because your claims
>> about it being freely redistributable are now proven false.
>>
>> Here's a reminder of our email exchanges:
>>
>> On 01/25/2011 11:27 PM, Steve Pinkham wrote:
>> > Put up or shut up time: I will pay to host the download on my own server
>> > for the next 6 months if the product license allows it(and it legal for
>> > me to do so as not infringing copyright, etc), or you need to stop
>> > claiming it is free.
>> >
>> > So, can I redistribute it for free, or are you a liar?
>>
>> Your reply:
>>
>> On 01/25/2011 11:59 PM, Juan Sacco wrote:
>> > Steve, yes you can! :-)
>> >
>> > Let me know by email when you are ready! and I hope you could make a
>> > personal review of Insect Pro 2.0 when you get a copy :P
>> >
>> > BTW I will change that word "licence" is consufing i guess,
>> >
>> > Thanks for support our software
>> >
>> > Juan Sacco
>>
>> My simple request is that you state that your software is free to
>> redistribute, and make a testable assertion that it does not infringe
>> other's copyright.
>>
>> I think I've made my case.  If you change your mind, the offer still
>> stands, and the server is all set up to host the file as soon as it is
>> made available to me with appropriate legal disclaimers.  Otherwise I
>> think we are done here.
>> --
>>  | Steven Pinkham, Security Consultant    |
>>  | http://www.mavensecurity.com           |
>>  | GPG public key ID CD31CAFB             |
>>
>>
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