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Date: Fri, 18 Feb 2011 19:30:49 +0000
From: "Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd]"
	<cal.leeming@...plicitymedialtd.co.uk>
To: Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: HBGary Mirrors?

Oh, I didn't realise that's what FreeNet did, I thought it was a tor
alternative!

On Fri, Feb 18, 2011 at 7:28 PM, <Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu> wrote:

> On Fri, 18 Feb 2011 18:37:09 GMT, "Cal Leeming [Simplicity Media Ltd]"
> said:
> > If illegally distributed files (such as this one) were encrypted and
> hosted
> > on one server, and the key hosted on another, which server would
> > be eligible for take down?
>
> Questions like that are part of why FreeNet and similar systems were
> designed.
> Nobody wants to be the test case for a simple question like that one,
> because
> even if you win the test case, it still sucks.  So the obvious thing to do
> is
> fix things so the simple questions aren't an issue anymore, with the hope
> that
> the hard questions remain un-askable.
>
> When even the person who stored the file can't tell where the file is, and
> the admin of each participating server has no way of telling what got
> stored
> on their node, it becomes really hard to draft a proper legal notice
> (either
> a 17 USC 512 takedown notice, or subpoenas/warrants for more serious
> stuff).
>
>
>
>
>

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