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Date: Sun, 12 Jun 2011 11:06:47 +1000
From: "-= Glowing Doom =-" <secn3t@...il.com>
To: Christian Sciberras <uuf6429@...il.com>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: POC for a simple gmail/possible code
 injection into html wich can be executed in an email,
 i will make the PoC code and explain how here and now...

This is why i was trying to say, it is hard to re make it and explain it ,
in the first post.
It is now, over 1yr old atleast and exists in riched20.dll.
This PoC info is over for me also.
I do not think I will be posting anything to this list, ill watch and learnm
from those who seem to have the knowledge about this and could help with
it... It does exist, and, it is a client side problem, however, it seems to
be accepted by gmail... I used gmail, as the PoC mail-to.
Sorry for sharing :s sheesh.


On 12 June 2011 11:04, Christian Sciberras <uuf6429@...il.com> wrote:

> As Adam said, I'll actually read this when it's been properly analysed.
> If it actually does exist, eventually someone will explain it more
> formally.
> Until that time, the discussion ends here for me.
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 2:59 AM, -= Glowing Doom =- <secn3t@...il.com>wrote:
>
>> Grow up? Jesus fucking christ you think people here care about some
>> half-assed crap you think you just dug up?
>>
>> Just dug up ?? I doubt it.. more like, new to the list.
>>
>> And finally, how does Thunderbird, Outlook relate to Gmail?
>> Regarding the dll, so it's first a dll-hunt in those 20+ dlls each of
>> those programs load up and now it's all about an RTF editing dll?
>> Then let's get back to the POC, which happens to be two crappy links,
>> which for some reason you'd believe wouldn't normally show up in an
>> email....?
>>
>> Gmail, was the example mailing system i used.. as ive stated the bug is a
>> DLL problem.
>> have a nice day sir!
>>
>>
>>
>> On 12 June 2011 10:56, Christian Sciberras <uuf6429@...il.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Grow up? Jesus fucking christ you think people here care about some
>>> half-assed crap you think you just dug up?
>>> We're all busy and you expect some one would go out of his way verifying
>>> (or not) what you think you've found?
>>>
>>> Here's a crazy though, grow up yourself and put your findings in a well
>>> written format, English or not.
>>> If you can't help your spelling mistakes get a decent browser and stop
>>> using lynx for the lulz.
>>>
>>> And finally, how does Thunderbird, Outlook relate to Gmail?
>>> Regarding the dll, so it's first a dll-hunt in those 20+ dlls each of
>>> those programs load up and now it's all about an RTF editing dll?
>>>
>>> Then let's get back to the POC, which happens to be two crappy links,
>>> which for some reason you'd believe wouldn't normally show up in an
>>> email....?
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Jun 12, 2011 at 2:49 AM, Jeffrey Walton <noloader@...il.com>wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 8:45 PM, adam <adam@...sy.net> wrote:
>>>> > Somehow, I seriously doubt that.
>>>> > The point is, broken English or not - this has to be the most
>>>> laughable PoC
>>>> > I've ever seen. He originally insists that this is a problem related
>>>> to (web
>>>> > based?) mail providers (which would lead anyone to believe is server
>>>> > related) and then turns around and begins referencing external
>>>> libraries
>>>> > (that he can't even name?).
>>>> > Lastly, before diving face first into his ass - you should have
>>>> probably
>>>> > performed a Google search. I'll give you a hint, he's not located in
>>>> some
>>>> > third world country.
>>>> Too funny.... Location is distinct from native tongue.
>>>> http://www.collegehumor.com/video/5817726/internet-bridge-troll
>>>>
>>>> Jeff
>>>>
>>>> > On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 7:30 PM, Jeffrey Walton <noloader@...il.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >>
>>>> >> On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 8:13 PM, adam <adam@...sy.net> wrote:
>>>> >> > When the English version becomes available, please let me know.
>>>> >> I'd bet secn3t's english is better than your speaking his native
>>>> >> tongue....
>>>> >>
>>>> >> > On Sat, Jun 11, 2011 at 7:02 PM, -= Glowing Doom =- <
>>>> secn3t@...il.com>
>>>> >> > wrote:
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> Systems wich appear vulnerable: EVERY single one i have tried...
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> How:
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> I wrote that sentecne, then, i backspaced it and blacked it over
>>>> with
>>>> >> >> copy
>>>> >> >> , then, enter url to wherver i want...
>>>> >> >> There is 3 ways i have found todo this, when i dissected one of
>>>> them,
>>>> >> >> the
>>>> >> >> URL/Sentence, was gfull of x41\x41\x41 , very strange... because
>>>> it is
>>>> >> >> still
>>>> >> >> able to be done 3 ways, and the simplest way does NOT require even
>>>> html
>>>> >> >> 'link' to section, wich is what MST be done, altho on older
>>>> emailer
>>>> >> >> systems,
>>>> >> >> I see that it is simple as backspace over the sentence,then type
>>>> the
>>>> >> >> url, it
>>>> >> >> a'appears' at first , to be a normal deleted sentence, but when I
>>>> open
>>>> >> >> and
>>>> >> >> dissect, it shows URL/41/41/41 then all over the email page, same
>>>> thing
>>>> >> >> ...
>>>> >> >> I know this might be confusing,  I traced the problem to a dll or
>>>> lib
>>>> >> >> wich
>>>> >> >> is for text editing , and that dll is a VERY common one on any
>>>> system,
>>>> >> >> sofar
>>>> >> >> not one mailing system, has NOT had this vuln... yet, i have seen
>>>> >> >> another
>>>> >> >> 'version' of this attack type, but, they can ONLY spoof a URL...
>>>> This
>>>> >> >> one,
>>>> >> >> you can make the whole email, a url... i will do this right now..
>>>> >> >>
>>>> >> >> [SNIP]
>>>> >>
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