full-disclosure - Re: how to detect DDoS attack through HTTP response analysis(throuput)

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Date: Tue, 28 Jun 2011 11:21:08 -0400
From: Emanuel dos Reis Rodrigues <emanueldosreis@...il.com>
To: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: how to detect DDoS attack through HTTP
 response analysis(throuput)

Hello folks,


The modsecurity have a better result than mod_qos to slowloris attack, 
mod_qos trend to increase the false positives  because of NAT and slow 
users.

If you test the R-U-D-Y,  you see that, modsecurity too  protect against 
them.

See: 
http://blog.spiderlabs.com/2010/11/advanced-topic-of-the-week-mitigating-slow-http-dos-attacks.html


best regards,



Emanuel dos Reis Rodrigues
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On 06/28/2011 10:44 AM, nix@...roxylists.com wrote:
>>   Hi,
>>
>>   its kinda<s>stupid</s>  incorrect way of detecting ddos by reading http
>>   responce.
>>   if server says error 408, it could be just a script which takes long to
>>   complete. if there is some caching server, e.g. nginx, before actual web
>>   server, e.g. apache httpd, then error 502 could be a result of any
>>   apache death, not a ddos attack.
>>   but if you still want to monitor sites in such "unusual" way, and if
>>   you have access to web-servers' serverstatus, you'd could parse them to
>>   find out: amount of simultaneous requests; similar requests by IP;
>>   similar requests by Requested Page; etc.
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>   Cheers,
>>
>>   Kai
>>
>>      
> Definitely. One way could be also using mod_qos, it provides protection
> against slowtoris attack and you can limit amount of allowed simultaneus
> connections per IP. Here's an example output from log:
>
> Slowtoris:
>
> [Tue Jun 28 02:30:07 2011] [error] mod_qos(034): access denied,
> QS_SrvMinDataRate rule (in): min=154,
> this connection=0, c=64.132.201.98
>
> Too many conns. per IP
>
> [Sun Jun 26 05:13:15 2011] [error] mod_qos(031): access denied,
> QS_SrvMaxConnPerIP rule: max=15, concurrent connections=21,
> message repeated 20 times, c=10.100.12.19
>
> Check out http://opensource.adnovum.ch/mod_qos/
>
>    
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