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Date: Wed, 10 Aug 2011 20:56:57 +1000
From: "-= Glowing Sex =-" <doomxd@...il.com>
To: coderman <coderman@...il.com>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: DEF CON 19 - hackers get hacked!

Helo again stranger,
hehe, well, the old method was to use a fake html page to ask for some 'java
update' to view some non existent 'suuposedly' awesome, poster/pic/mvie.. on
myspace, this was written in VB but,, logged every email that clicked and,
this loaded an exe, in 2 days was 200 thousand boxes on one ircd.. this di
not last once the myspace found out.. but it was nonetheless, a BIG one...
and yes, i still have the ONLY src i know for this kind of trickter method..
it is VB :P hehe.
times are a changing... but, i see now what tyou mean... still, i just dont
know why people even INSTALL or, accept anything at a defcon meeting, ofc
someone will try to make some name, mining for data, is stealing an id
nowdays, so there would be GREat potential for one device, to connect to
some network, and rescan for other weak/known exploits... then you have an
army :)

but, intersting about 4G... i have not yet to see that haxd so, 1 point for
that but, thats prolly coz ui aint really been looking at that side of it
... and, kinda wish that some idiot would try and fool me at a defconz ....
it would be fun to watch tho... i still rember the gotse loading in corner
of pages....ahhh the old days....

nice writeup tho coderman, well researched article wich i even have to re
read :)
cheers
xd


On 10 August 2011 20:07, coderman <coderman@...il.com> wrote:

> On Wed, Aug 10, 2011 at 2:55 AM, -= Glowing Sex =- <doomxd@...il.com>
> wrote:
> >...so whats s new... same methods, and same bs...
> > i just dont see any usefulness to what could be done anytime, and if you
> > were silly enough to accept ASNY files direct dl at ANY  **COn, expect it
> > :P~
>
> indeed. but as indicated, this system tried easy and known attacks
> first (including checking for "su" on device without authorization.
> did anyone click to give root to some strange app?)
>
> only when the easy and known attacks failed did the more advanced
> attacks take place. these were increasingly more interesting / novel
> attacks.
>
>
>
> > but the method, is pathetically old, and, hiding behind some lame
> > android-root, as most of these ppl do... when i see them lever, linux,
> with
> > NO html, ill maybe like them abit :P~~
>
> not sure what this means, but i like the idea of "NO html" ;)
>
>
>
> > meh.. so whats new... hijacking a phone botnet would be fun but,
>
> not a botnet; a phone pilfering and surveillance network targeted at
> Rio attendees.
>
> a number of the attacks would only work and/or remain active while on
> the MitM network - designed with limited scope and longevity.
>
>
>
> > i dont see
> > why would bother scanning for them.. when, i have and, theyre pretty
> > useless... well, maybe for android freaks...and, this is simple a root
> > exploit or, exoploit being levered, thru an LD
>
> scanning for what? the intent was pretty clear and seemed entirely
> useful to the attackers: pilfer data from phones, leverage pwnd phones
> for surveillance within the conference / among attendees.
>

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