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Date: Mon, 03 Oct 2011 10:21:15 -0700
From: Laurelai <laurelai@...echan.org>
To: Christian Sciberras <uuf6429@...il.com>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: VPN providers and any providers in general...

On 10/3/2011 8:16 AM, Christian Sciberras wrote:
> I'm not sure who's the the one acting like a child, the guy spamming 
> people with bullshit or the other one telling him to do everyone a 
> favor and shut up.
>
>
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 7:13 PM, Laurelai <laurelai@...echan.org 
> <mailto:laurelai@...echan.org>> wrote:
>
>     On 10/3/2011 8:06 AM, Christian Sciberras wrote:
>>     Manners, on FD list? Are you trying to be funny?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>     On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 7:04 PM, Laurelai <laurelai@...echan.org
>>     <mailto:laurelai@...echan.org>> wrote:
>>
>>         On 10/3/2011 7:57 AM, Christian Sciberras wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>         Here's a great idea that doesn't need LSD or
>>>         being doped;*shut the fuck up*.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>         On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 6:31 PM, Laurelai
>>>         <laurelai@...echan.org <mailto:laurelai@...echan.org>> wrote:
>>>
>>>             On 10/3/2011 7:30 AM, doc mombasa wrote:
>>>>             yeah ive been in similar situations several times
>>>>             unless the dose is too high then its doable hehehehe
>>>>
>>>>             2011/10/3 Darren Martyn
>>>>             <d.martyn.fulldisclosure@...il.com
>>>>             <mailto:d.martyn.fulldisclosure@...il.com>>
>>>>
>>>>                 People used to LSD can do pretty amazing things.
>>>>                 This guy in college was throwing a mini-rave/house
>>>>                 party at his home, and he was tripping when the
>>>>                 police came to ask us to turn the music down. He
>>>>                 managed to talk to them for about 5 minutes,
>>>>                 appeared totally fine, and they were none the wiser
>>>>                 to his incredibly incapacitated condition.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>                 On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 3:16 PM, doc mombasa
>>>>                 <doc.mombasa@...il.com
>>>>                 <mailto:doc.mombasa@...il.com>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>                     if you are used to the effects of LSD then its
>>>>                     not a problem
>>>>                     i like to code on psychedelics and/or alcohol
>>>>                     myself :)
>>>>
>>>>                     2011/10/3 Laurelai <laurelai@...echan.org
>>>>                     <mailto:laurelai@...echan.org>>
>>>>
>>>>                         On 10/3/2011 7:10 AM, Darren Martyn wrote:
>>>>>                         Nothing "wrong" with it per se, I was
>>>>>                         known to enjoy large bottles of rum during
>>>>>                         extended coding sessions. Now I can attest
>>>>>                         to the massive fall-off in "epic skillz"
>>>>>                         associated with too much alcohol - my code
>>>>>                         starts OK, gets better, then becomes an
>>>>>                         epic mess of typoes. I stopped doing that
>>>>>                         a while back as I realized that it
>>>>>                         impaired my judgement too much.
>>>>>
>>>>>                         Computer crimes are far easier to commit
>>>>>                         when ones judgement is sufficiently
>>>>>                         impaired - a lot of people I used to
>>>>>                         associate with took some form of
>>>>>                         intoxicant and claimed it made them a
>>>>>                         "better hacker". (cannabis often being one
>>>>>                         of the drugs of choice, some claim it
>>>>>                         allowed them to "visualize" it all
>>>>>                         better...). I personally reckon that the
>>>>>                         real reason for this is that it makes it
>>>>>                         easier to ignore the fact you are doing
>>>>>                         something "wrong".
>>>>>
>>>>>                         TL;DR, intoxicants + misguided computer
>>>>>                         hackers = bad.
>>>>>
>>>>>                         On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Laurelai
>>>>>                         <laurelai@...echan.org
>>>>>                         <mailto:laurelai@...echan.org>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>                             On 10/3/2011 4:56 AM, Darren Martyn wrote:
>>>>>                             > True, I know some hackers who really
>>>>>                             apply the "Ballmers Peak"
>>>>>                             > (http://xkcd.com/323/) principle...
>>>>>                             They simply need to dry up :)
>>>>>                             >
>>>>>                             Yeah i know quite a few of those myself.
>>>>>
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>>>>                         I know a guy who codes perl on LSD, writes
>>>>                         good code too.
>>>>
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>>>>
>>>             The one time i coded under the influence it did not end
>>>             well...never again lol...
>>>
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>>         You are pretty rude guy, didn't your mom ever teach you manners?
>>
>>
>     Politeness goes a long long way no matter what sort of environment
>     you are in. Screaming at people to shut up just makes you look
>     like a child, if you dont like what i have to say dont listen to it.
>
>
I was having a lovely conversation with people about the effects of 
intoxicants on coding skill until you came along/, again if you don't 
like the topic in question don't pay attention.
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