Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 09:43:42 +1100
From: xD 0x41 <secn3t@...il.com>
To: Darren Martyn <d.martyn.fulldisclosure@...il.com>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: VPN providers and any providers in general...

Nice.
Oh, i did not mean hackers and drugs, they are not really what I classify as
a hardcore, criminalised addict who is now at the point where the drug runs
them... most hard non-pc crimes, are this way.
Although, i know of many many people who abuse benzodiazepedines, and thats
where it can get only abit tricky to *speak* with them ;p , however, this
does not classify to me, as a harder tyope, who would rip that computer
outta your hand and take it to sale!
Thats the crims i mean, and thats the reason why PC users have a much higher
chance to not be any kind of 'repeat' addict... simply just they are not
running around, daily, robbing things and people, (how would they use a
pc...) and many actually, work at places.
So, it is a rather good area to look at, because the chances of rehabbing a
PC/IT user, is much much better than any harder criminal who has done say,
20yrs of theyre life (out of 25 yrs on earth), behind jail bars.
Anyhow, i think alot of hackers do *abuse* but, not addicted, to drugs, wich
makes me wonder why they do it, some i know, have to for medical reasons,
and know this, and when under influence, usually jump offline or stay afk
abit..
Some, just abuse at a low level with pills, but if you were to count IV
users amongst hackers vs IV users amongst the public/crime scenes there,
then you would have a very different sizing.
Is good reading to look at a few cases, regarding drugged people committing
crimes, and compare the statistics to the turn-about with jail, wich is
probably 99% amongst the hardcore crims, rotation rate*.
Anyhow, cheers!
xd


On 4 October 2011 01:10, Darren Martyn <d.martyn.fulldisclosure@...il.com>wrote:

> Nothing "wrong" with it per se, I was known to enjoy large bottles of rum
> during extended coding sessions. Now I can attest to the massive fall-off in
> "epic skillz" associated with too much alcohol - my code starts OK, gets
> better, then becomes an epic mess of typoes. I stopped doing that a while
> back as I realized that it impaired my judgement too much.
>
> Computer crimes are far easier to commit when ones judgement is
> sufficiently impaired - a lot of people I used to associate with took some
> form of intoxicant and claimed it made them a "better hacker". (cannabis
> often being one of the drugs of choice, some claim it allowed them to
> "visualize" it all better...). I personally reckon that the real reason for
> this is that it makes it easier to ignore the fact you are doing something
> "wrong".
>
> TL;DR, intoxicants + misguided computer hackers = bad.
>
> On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 3:36 PM, Laurelai <laurelai@...echan.org> wrote:
>
>> On 10/3/2011 4:56 AM, Darren Martyn wrote:
>> > True, I know some hackers who really apply the "Ballmers Peak"
>> > (http://xkcd.com/323/) principle... They simply need to dry up :)
>> >
>> Yeah i know quite a few of those myself.
>>
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