Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2011 15:13:45 +0200
From: doc mombasa <doc.mombasa@...il.com>
To: Laurelai <laurelai@...echan.org>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: VPN providers and any providers in general...

there is no such thing as bad publicity (especially for sites like TPB)

2011/10/4 Laurelai <laurelai@...echan.org>

>  On 10/4/2011 7:36 AM, doc mombasa wrote:
>
> well here in denmark they are also "blocked"
> but as most other places it's a block on DNS level so it's very easy to get
> around
>
>  2011/10/4 xD 0x41 <secn3t@...il.com>
>
>> On the piratebay.org dilemma for isps, i found this posted just *now*
>> (10pm,australian time)
>>
>> Belgian ISPs Ordered To Block The Pirate Bay -
>> http://feed.torrentfreak.com/~r/Torrentfreak/~3/FMfrUHk1sZM/
>>
>> Interesting developments regarding this.. I am using the RSS feed on TF to
>> keepup qwith this case.... seems it has taken a sharp u-turn!
>> headsup!
>> xd
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 4 October 2011 18:06, Ferenc Kovacs <tyra3l@...il.com> wrote:
>>
>>> http://vpn.hidemyass.com/vpncontrol/legal.html
>>>
>>> "VPN Data
>>>
>>> What we store: Time stamp and IP address when you connect and
>>> disconnect to our service."
>>>
>>> ...
>>>
>>> "Legalities
>>>
>>> Anonymity services such as ours do not exist to hide people from
>>> illegal activity. We will cooperate with law enforcement agencies if
>>> it has become evident that your account has been used for illegal
>>> activities."
>>>
>>> people should read the TOC, AUP and privacy policy especially if they
>>> are planning to use that service for illegal activities.
>>>
>>> As I mentioned before it is hard to expect that a VPN provider will
>>> risk his company for your $11.52/month, and maybe they would try it
>>> for some lesser case, but what Lulsec did was grant, so I'm not
>>> surprised that they bent.
>>>
>>> On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 1:09 AM, xD 0x41 <secn3t@...il.com> wrote:
>>> > maybe they are law abiding companies? :)
>>> >
>>> > Who were advertising themselves, and acting like they would NEVER do
>>> the
>>> > dirty by handing over any payment records etc... wich is half the
>>> reason i
>>> > believe the people use theose ones, advertising to protect you.. not to
>>> give
>>> > your infos up, for really, no reason. as they did.
>>> > Law abiding or not, then they should be advertising as a law abiding
>>> > company, and not acting like some hackers-oparadise vpn service.
>>> > xd
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On 4 October 2011 06:16, Ferenc Kovacs <tyra3l@...il.com> wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 10:35 PM, Laurelai <laurelai@...echan.org>
>>> wrote:
>>> >> > On 10/3/2011 10:42 AM, Antony widmal wrote:
>>> >> >> Using an external VPN provider to cover your trace clearly shows
>>> your
>>> >> >> incompetency and your idiot assumption.
>>> >> >> Trying to blame the VPN provider rather than accepting your mistake
>>> >> >> and learning from it clearly show your 3 years old mentality.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Also, could you please stop posting as GLOW Xd as well ?
>>> >> >> We do not need your schizophrenic script kiddie "lolololol", "xD",
>>> >> >> hugs,  spamming on this mailing list.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> You being on this mailing list is once again not the best idea.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Thanks,
>>> >> >> Antony
>>> >> > Actually XD and me are two different people. Second issues of
>>> privacy
>>> >> > are always relevant, not understanding that law abiding individuals
>>> >> > should always be concerned about companies that hand over personal
>>> info
>>> >> > at the request of an authority figure are the ones with three year
>>> old
>>> >> > mentalities.
>>> >>
>>> >> maybe they are law abiding companies? :)
>>> >> this whole fuss wouldn't have happened, if everybody could just stay a
>>> >> law abiding citizen.
>>> >>
>>> >> --
>>> >> Ferenc Kovács
>>> >> @Tyr43l - http://tyrael.hu
>>> >>
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>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Ferenc Kovács
>>> @Tyr43l - http://tyrael.hu
>>>
>>
>>
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>
>
>
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>  It also just tends to increase TPB's traffic in the long run.
>
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