Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2011 08:45:20 +1100
From: xD 0x41 <secn3t@...il.com>
To: Darren Martyn <d.martyn.fulldisclosure@...il.com>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: VPN providers and any providers in general...

Oh just on ThepirateBay thing, I am kind of laughing, look at this... and
this shows how easily they bypassed, and still have fine hosting it seems.

The Pirate Bay Adds Domain to Bypass Court Order -
http://feed.torrentfreak.com/~r/Torrentfreak/~3/ueTghMyUIbE/

You guys are right about that whole thing, i was thinking that they were
screwed until i saw this.... RSS feeds are handy.


On 4 October 2011 18:06, Ferenc Kovacs <tyra3l@...il.com> wrote:

> http://vpn.hidemyass.com/vpncontrol/legal.html
>
> "VPN Data
>
> What we store: Time stamp and IP address when you connect and
> disconnect to our service."
>
> ...
>
> "Legalities
>
> Anonymity services such as ours do not exist to hide people from
> illegal activity. We will cooperate with law enforcement agencies if
> it has become evident that your account has been used for illegal
> activities."
>
> people should read the TOC, AUP and privacy policy especially if they
> are planning to use that service for illegal activities.
>
> As I mentioned before it is hard to expect that a VPN provider will
> risk his company for your $11.52/month, and maybe they would try it
> for some lesser case, but what Lulsec did was grant, so I'm not
> surprised that they bent.
>
> On Tue, Oct 4, 2011 at 1:09 AM, xD 0x41 <secn3t@...il.com> wrote:
> > maybe they are law abiding companies? :)
> >
> > Who were advertising themselves, and acting like they would NEVER do the
> > dirty by handing over any payment records etc... wich is half the reason
> i
> > believe the people use theose ones, advertising to protect you.. not to
> give
> > your infos up, for really, no reason. as they did.
> > Law abiding or not, then they should be advertising as a law abiding
> > company, and not acting like some hackers-oparadise vpn service.
> > xd
> >
> >
> > On 4 October 2011 06:16, Ferenc Kovacs <tyra3l@...il.com> wrote:
> >>
> >> On Mon, Oct 3, 2011 at 10:35 PM, Laurelai <laurelai@...echan.org>
> wrote:
> >> > On 10/3/2011 10:42 AM, Antony widmal wrote:
> >> >> Using an external VPN provider to cover your trace clearly shows your
> >> >> incompetency and your idiot assumption.
> >> >> Trying to blame the VPN provider rather than accepting your mistake
> >> >> and learning from it clearly show your 3 years old mentality.
> >> >>
> >> >> Also, could you please stop posting as GLOW Xd as well ?
> >> >> We do not need your schizophrenic script kiddie "lolololol", "xD",
> >> >> hugs,  spamming on this mailing list.
> >> >>
> >> >> You being on this mailing list is once again not the best idea.
> >> >>
> >> >> Thanks,
> >> >> Antony
> >> > Actually XD and me are two different people. Second issues of privacy
> >> > are always relevant, not understanding that law abiding individuals
> >> > should always be concerned about companies that hand over personal
> info
> >> > at the request of an authority figure are the ones with three year old
> >> > mentalities.
> >>
> >> maybe they are law abiding companies? :)
> >> this whole fuss wouldn't have happened, if everybody could just stay a
> >> law abiding citizen.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Ferenc Kovács
> >> @Tyr43l - http://tyrael.hu
> >>
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> --
> Ferenc Kovács
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