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Date: Wed, 12 Oct 2011 22:09:28 +0000
From: Michael Schmidt <mschmidt@...gstore.com>
To: 'Benjamin Krueger' <benjamin@...ttlefenix.net>, Paul Schmehl
	<pschmehl_lists@...rr.com>
Cc: "full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk" <full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>,
	"Zach C." <fxchip@...il.com>
Subject: Re: [OT] Obama said: "American people
	understand	that not everybody's been following the rules"

And I thought this wasn't a place for politics, I am certain there are forums for that - or your Twitter or Facebook page or whatever, just not here.

-----Original Message-----
From: full-disclosure-bounces@...ts.grok.org.uk [mailto:full-disclosure-bounces@...ts.grok.org.uk] On Behalf Of Benjamin Krueger
Sent: Wednesday, October 12, 2011 2:46 PM
To: Paul Schmehl
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk; Zach C.
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] [OT] Obama said: "American people understand that not everybody's been following the rules"

I thought the trolls made FD noisy and difficult to read. Boy was I wrong.

On Oct 12, 2011, at 2:17 PM, Paul Schmehl wrote:

> --On October 12, 2011 11:00:32 AM -0700 "Zach C." <fxchip@...il.com> wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Indeed? Are they supposed to be taking pictures of events with 
>> handmade cameras? Wearing clothes they made from the ground up? Not 
>> shaving or shaving with crudely-fashioned makeshift blades from spare metal?
>> 
>> The usage of corporate products does not disqualify one from 
>> criticizing those corporations, their behaviors, their products or the government.
> 
> No, but it certainly does make one a hypocrite.
> 
>> At
>> least partially because it's practically unavoidable for most people. 
>> Are you honestly saying they should have just spread local word of 
>> mouth in their area and hoped it would sweep the country because that 
>> wouldn't have used any corporate resources? That is a most 
>> inefficient way of moving people, especially with a news media that 
>> is proving actively hostile to those who are admittedly threatening its cushy seat.
> 
> Isn't that interesting?  They want to get rid of all the corps, yet 
> they don't want to do without their products because it would be "a 
> most inefficient way of moving people"
> 
> If you can't see the irony and hypocrisy of that position, you might 
> be a liberal.  Oh, 'scuse me, progressive.
> 
> --
> Paul Schmehl, Senior Infosec Analyst
> As if it wasn't already obvious, my opinions are my own and not those 
> of my employer.
> *******************************************
> "It is as useless to argue with those who have renounced the use of 
> reason as to administer medication to the dead." Thomas Jefferson 
> "There are some ideas so wrong that only a very intelligent person 
> could believe in them." George Orwell
> 
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