full-disclosure - Re: Possible German Governmental Backdoor found ("R2D2")

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Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 20:38:26 -0400
From: Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu
To: "andrew.wallace" <andrew.wallace@...ketmail.com>
Cc: "full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk" <full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>
Subject: Re: Possible German Governmental Backdoor found
	("R2D2")

On Thu, 13 Oct 2011 14:44:32 PDT, Andrew Wallace said:
> No, they started moderating the list January 2009.
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> Andrew Wallace
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> Independent consultant
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> www.n3td3v.org.uk
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> ________________________________
> From: Byron Sonne <byron.sonne@...il.com>
> To: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
> Sent: Thursday, October 13, 2011 10:33 PM
> Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Possible German Governmental Backdoor found ("R2D2")
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> I thought this was an unmoderated list? It appears my submission has
> been held back.

To clarify:  the list itself is (to the best of my knowledge), in fact *not*
moderated, which involves somebody actually looking at all postings and doing a yes/
no check on the enclosed content.

That is *different* from *certain user addresses* being set to permanent
moderation status.

There's unfortunately some people that are still fuzzy on the difference, and
some that insist on conflating the two.

https://www.gnu.org/s/mailman/mailman-admin/node22.html

tl;dr: No, the list isn't moderated, Andrew is (and other individuals may or
may not be at any given time).

Byron: Having said that, I have no idea what delayed your original posting to
the list.  Your follow-up appears to have cleared the list in about 6 seconds
from arrival to queued for delivery, so was almost certainly unmoderated.

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