Date: Mon, 17 Oct 2011 01:00:47 +0200
From: Christian Sciberras <uuf6429@...il.com>
To: "Ivan ." <ivanhec@...il.com>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: [OT] Obama said: "American people understand
 that not everybody's been following the rules"

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Very reliable source. Buying products I like must put me at the 1% range.
Sure, I can't quite afford Bentleys, but I don't think that would put me in
the "poor" category...
Then again, a chunk of someone's $1bn bank account would be handy to
everyone...







On Sun, Oct 16, 2011 at 11:40 PM, Ivan . <ivanhec@...il.com> wrote:

> 15 Mind-Blowing Facts About Wealth And Inequality In America
>
> http://www.businessinsider.com/facts-about-inequality-in-america-2011-11?op=1
>
>
> On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 12:58 PM, Laurelai <laurelai@...echan.org> wrote:
>
>>  On 10/14/2011 8:21 PM, Christian Sciberras wrote:
>>
>> You think I'm biting that?
>>
>>  Skinny and "under-age"  is just about everything you could come up with.
>> Congrats for creativity.
>>
>>  Just because two of you decided you found common grounds for insult
>> doesn't mean you're god-almighty-indisputably-right in every piece of shit
>> you come up with. Did I mention it's shit?
>>
>>  With that, I give you one, you have a point, I should have stopped
>> responding ever since some guy decided to equate a couple dozen of people
>> into America's 1%.
>>
>>  Strange, thought security guys would have been better with numbers...
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 15, 2011 at 2:32 AM, Laurelai <laurelai@...echan.org> wrote:
>>
>>>   On 10/14/2011 6:32 PM, xD 0x41 wrote:
>>>
>>> Cristiano , per favor' mi dai dieci minuti scusa mi ma, e' essentiale ..
>>> You really dont realise how much, you attack others when they post,
>>> NOMATTER what the topic... yet you are still wondering why somany people
>>> seem to despise your skinny little nerdy ass... well, nerdy isnt bad, but,
>>> your a downright lookalike for mr.Bean aka rowan atkinson. You could maybe
>>> do his stunts, to ?
>>> Your the one who is usually abusing others, before the finality wich is
>>> simply adults not reesponding, to the baby whos crying out for more
>>> aarguements.
>>> You should stfu, and learn more, you assume to know all, in every post,
>>> your the brain, yet you are lame, i looked everything up abiout you, and
>>> yes, go ahead, and setup a nice wordpress secure setting, php wise to,  then
>>> yes, id maybe hink your atleast a halfwit ;)
>>> Anyhow, your basically a tr0ll, and, you seem to keep goading, even AFTER
>>> the others, have completely stopped responding to you, simply because,
>>> Laurelai was right, why would anyone want to keep up a thread wich has now
>>> turned malign, as i forsaw a week ago, but, i did not think it would even
>>> make a week, People like you, keep inspiring the flame to burn brighter..
>>> wich to me, is nastier than any *abuse* names, wich, you clearly have not
>>> counted howmany times you have actually called others, some form of rude
>>> name/word/personal attack.
>>> Maybe when you GROW UP, and behave as an adult, then I would assume the
>>> list will start to hear you, even through the bs.
>>> Anyhow, i applaud you, for *coming out* as to say, I mean, putting your
>>> pic up, like that, mate, you could be a pornstar! what you doin online
>>> :P~~~bahahaha
>>> go back to grade.2 then repeate it, then move on... then, if you work out
>>> how to call 911, call someone who gives a shit.
>>> Idiotic kid, grow the hell up.
>>> xd--
>>>
>>> // IND SEC CONSILTANT FOR Yep yep Security (simply coz it sounds good)
>>> YEP YEP for all your Hat attire needs!
>>>
>>> On 15 October 2011 08:57, Christian Sciberras <uuf6429@...il.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Yeah, let's just all ignore low insults. The world would be a much
>>>> better place without them and whoever said them in the first place...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 11:02 PM, Laurelai <laurelai@...echan.org>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>   On 10/14/2011 2:25 PM, Christian Sciberras wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Resorting to personal attacks? Nice.
>>>>>
>>>>>  Technical skills in what? Running a wordpress blog? Defacing a
>>>>> website? Growing pot?
>>>>>
>>>>>  I rarely publicise any materials, most of the time I just tell
>>>>> whoever is responsible to do a fix.
>>>>> I'm not really running after publicity, unlike you guys.
>>>>> Also note that I never said I'm a seasoned hacker... in fact, my
>>>>> occupation is quite on the opposite side of the spectrum...
>>>>>
>>>>>  You also seem to know more than I do what the Ubuntu VM I have
>>>>> contains.
>>>>>
>>>>>  But that must make all the difference! I mean, people that don't know
>>>>> qubits from bits shouldn't be allowed in such discussions
>>>>> (of course there's wikipedia...)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 6:38 PM, Georgi Guninski <
>>>>> guninski@...inski.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Christian Sciberras,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I have trouble judging your technical skills - all I have seen is bad
>>>>>> smalltalk.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Do you have any technical publications you can share so I can judge?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> btw, the best i found was you could could reproduce a bug in a CMS and
>>>>>> in addition you can't tell root from user password on vanilla ubuntu.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> joro
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Oct 14, 2011 at 02:11:13AM +0200, Christian Sciberras wrote:
>>>>>> > > So if they cause damage for profit that makes it ok?
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > No. But it's certainly better than doing damage without profit.
>>>>>> Making
>>>>>> > profit means that at the end of the day, the money's going to go
>>>>>> somewhere
>>>>>> > further in the chain.
>>>>>> > Flattening a tower, for instance, or attacking the local bank that
>>>>>> refused
>>>>>> > to give you a loan because of the time you spent in a cell, isn't as
>>>>>> > productive.
>>>>>> > Neither is it making a company loose clients/profit just because
>>>>>> they
>>>>>> > decided they don't want you to use their services (as if you did
>>>>>> have a
>>>>>> > right in the first place...).
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > > And yes I acknowledge the American public has a measure of
>>>>>> responsibility
>>>>>> > in the situation too, human beings are by nature imperfect, but the
>>>>>> largest
>>>>>> > share of responsibility lies with the names listed below.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > The largest share? I can see Ex-president Bush trying to sell you a
>>>>>> bottle
>>>>>> > of beer for $10 dollars ($7 profit). Wait, I can't.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > > That sort of thing has happened to me and I paid back every dime
>>>>>> of it,
>>>>>> > most people are decent human beings and would do the same.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Most people? I could have sworn 90% of the people in the NYC subway
>>>>>> would
>>>>>> > thank $deity if you suddenly dropped dead so they could get things
>>>>>> off you.
>>>>>> > Call me cynical, but I wouldn't trust anyone else in such cases,
>>>>>> other than
>>>>>> > myself.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > Regarding that list of yours, great! Now we just need a little more
>>>>>> effort.
>>>>>> > For each of those persons, please enlighten us as to what they did
>>>>>> legally
>>>>>> > wrong.
>>>>>> > Of course, the people that landed in jail shouldn't be counted. The
>>>>>> "99%
>>>>>> > protest" is a modern one committed to change, it just can't right
>>>>>> wrongs by
>>>>>> > pointing at jailed people.
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > On Thu, Oct 13, 2011 at 11:35 PM, Laurelai <laurelai@...echan.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> >
>>>>>> > >  On 10/13/2011 9:18 AM, Christian Sciberras wrote:
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > I simply acknowledge the fact that some people work hard to get
>>>>>> "obscenely
>>>>>> > > rich", but I just can't stand people that cause damage for the fun
>>>>>> of it.
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > >  So if they cause damage for profit that makes it ok?
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > >  Yes, I stick for everyone that minds his business, instead of
>>>>>> ruining
>>>>>> > > others' for the fun of it.
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > >  What bothers me is the fact that those hypocrites (protesters)
>>>>>> are crying
>>>>>> > > out loud against some people they're highly envious of with the
>>>>>> excuse of
>>>>>> > > "the depression".
>>>>>> > > Well, here's the news; the famous depression has been brought
>>>>>> about by
>>>>>> > > these same people!
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > And yes I acknowledge the American public has a measure of
>>>>>> responsibility
>>>>>> > > in the situation too, human beings are by nature imperfect, but
>>>>>> the largest
>>>>>> > > share of responsibility lies with the names listed below.
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > >  If someone above is collecting free money because of incentives
>>>>>> for
>>>>>> > > people to spend money (and which seem to work well), I can't blame
>>>>>> him.
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > >  Yes because trickle down theory worked *so* well
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > >  How many times in your life have you paid back something you
>>>>>> received by
>>>>>> > > mistake and which wasn't yours?
>>>>>> > > While I would foremost applaud anyone that would right such a
>>>>>> wrong, I just
>>>>>> > > can't ignore the fact that those people out there representing the
>>>>>> "99%" are
>>>>>> > > big-time hypocrites.
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > That sort of thing has happened to me and I paid back every dime
>>>>>> of it,
>>>>>> > > most people are decent human beings and would do the same.
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > >  On a different argument, since you seem to know well enough how
>>>>>> some of
>>>>>> > > the 1% are doing immoral things, why don't you start by handing
>>>>>> out names
>>>>>> > > instead of talking air just as the "99%" crowd has been doing up
>>>>>> till now?
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>  > > *Alan Greenspan, chairman of US Federal Reserve 1987- 2006
>>>>>> > > **Mervyn King, governor of the Bank of England
>>>>>> > > **Bill Clinton, former US president*
>>>>>> > > *Gordon Brown, prime minister*
>>>>>> > > *George W Bush, former US president*
>>>>>> > > *Senator Phil Gramm
>>>>>> > > **Abby Cohen, Goldman Sachs chief US strategist
>>>>>> > > **Kathleen Corbet, former CEO, Standard & Poor's
>>>>>> > > **"Hank" Greenberg, AIG insurance group
>>>>>> > > **Andy Hornby, former HBOS boss
>>>>>> > > **Steve Crawshaw, former B&B boss
>>>>>> > > **Adam Applegarth, former Northern Rock boss
>>>>>> > > **Dick Fuld, Lehman Brothers chief executive
>>>>>> > > **Ralph Cioffi and Matthew Tannin
>>>>>> > > **Lewis Ranieri
>>>>>> > > **Joseph Cassano, AIG Financial Products
>>>>>> > > **Chuck Prince, former Citi boss
>>>>>> > > **Angelo Mozilo, Countrywide Financial
>>>>>> > > **Stan O'Neal, former boss of Merrill Lynch*
>>>>>> > > *Jimmy Cayne, former Bear Stearns boss
>>>>>> > > **Christopher Dodd, chairman, Senate banking committee (Democrat)
>>>>>> > > **Geir Haarde, Icelandic prime minister
>>>>>> > > **John Tiner, FSA chief executive, 2003-07*
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > > Oh yeah and lets not forget about this guy
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> http://www.time.com/time/specials/packages/article/0,28804,1877351_1877350_1877337,00.html
>>>>>> > > And while he is thankfully spending time in a prison cell, so many
>>>>>> other
>>>>>> > > names on this list go free, in fact a good chunk of them made a
>>>>>> profit off
>>>>>> > > of the disaster.
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>> > >
>>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>  Lets keep the discussion above the belt guys ok?
>>>>>
>>>>>
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>>  I was actually talking to Xd as im rather skinny myself :s
>>
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