full-disclosure - Re: Ubuntu 11.10 now unsecure by default

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Date: Sun, 20 Nov 2011 08:31:12 +1100
From: xD 0x41 <secn3t@...il.com>
To: Dan Kaminsky <dan@...para.com>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: Ubuntu 11.10 now unsecure by default

Already 2 conflicting answers,abit of confusion i might say....  this
is exactly why it should be ONE flippin binary.




On 20 November 2011 06:54, Dan Kaminsky <dan@...para.com> wrote:
> Er, sudo bash gives you /dev/kmem, access to the hard drive block device...
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On Nov 19, 2011, at 11:44 AM, james@...o-internet.org.uk wrote:
>
>> Effective user id as a short answer; compare sudo whoami and su - whoami
>>
>>
>> Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Dan Kaminsky <dan@...para.com>
>> Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2011 11:36:47
>> To: james@...o-internet.org.uk<james@...o-internet.org.uk>
>> Cc: Johan Nestaas<johannestaas@...il.com>; full-disclosure-bounces@...ts.grok.org.uk<full-disclosure-bounces@...ts.grok.org.uk>; Olivier<feuille@...ibox.fr>; full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk<full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>
>> Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Ubuntu 11.10 now unsecure by default
>>
>> What is the security differential between su and sudo bash?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On Nov 19, 2011, at 6:15 AM, james@...o-internet.org.uk wrote:
>>
>>> I'll second that; the isp I work at has a sizeable ubuntu customer base and these are customers who have made an informed decision.
>>>
>>> Now; let's consider ubuntu's inherited security from debian such as configuring a 'mortal account' (admittedly can be ignored in the preseed) and then the lack of perms on su; must use sudo.
>>>
>>> This is a distro that is newbie friendly but is not designed specifically for them.
>>>
>>> Unfortunately, though, you make a distro with simplified tasks (printer installation a fantastic example) and people, especially long term linuxers- though I ought to be included I guess, remember back all too easily to when everything was an uphill struggle: "what do you mean I don't have to compile this as a flipping module? That's not freedom!" Being all too familiar.
>>>
>>> Just my tuppence worth anyway.
>>>
>>> Sent from my BlackBerry® wireless device
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Johan Nestaas <johannestaas@...il.com>
>>> Sender: full-disclosure-bounces@...ts.grok.org.uk
>>> Date: Fri, 18 Nov 2011 12:04:46
>>> To: Olivier<feuille@...ibox.fr>
>>> Cc: <full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>
>>> Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Ubuntu 11.10 now unsecure by default
>>>
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