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Date: Thu, 7 Jun 2012 00:05:15 -0400
From: Ian Hayes <cthulhucalling@...il.com>
To: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: Obama Order Sped Up Wave of Cyberattacks
 Against Iran

On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 11:49 PM, Laurelai <laurelai@...echan.org> wrote:
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> On 6/6/12 11:44 PM, valdis.kletnieks@...edu wrote:
>> On Wed, 06 Jun 2012 23:22:32 -0400, Laurelai said:
>>
>>> Guys can we focus on the fact that the US Government is en mass
>>> accessing computer systems without due process, and trying to prosecute
>>> the people who made this known to the public.
>>
>> After a decade of unindicted torture of prisoners, renditions, spying
> on our
>> own citizens, and killing of our own citizens, and a long list of other
> stuff,
>> all without due process, you really think anybody cares about a little
> illicit
>> hacking without due process? I'm afraid that ship basically sailed when
>> Pelosi said impeachment was off the table...
>>
> And why arent people in the streets demanding they all step down?

Such naivety. It's charming. You have much to learn about American apathy.

There were people in the streets. They were marginalized, and made fun
of, pepper sprayed, called "entitled dirty socialists" and told to get
a job. As long as people care more about what happens on American Idol
and whoever Kim Kardashian is divorcing this week, they're not going
to care one iota about what the government is doing to some country
that probably had it coming to them in the first place. You want the
masses out in the streets with the torches and pitchforks, you're
going to have to overcome decades of being programmed to not care what
the government does anymore as long as the TV works, there's beer in
the fridge, and porn is still freely available.

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