full-disclosure - Re: Obama Order Sped Up Wave of Cyberattacks Against Iran

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Date: Sat, 9 Jun 2012 17:10:27 -0400
From: Mark Shuler <secdumptcp@...il.com>
To: Jason Hellenthal <jhellenthal@...aix.net>
Cc: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: Obama Order Sped Up Wave of Cyberattacks
 Against Iran

Nudging everyone back to the alleged Obama tactics.....I'm sure everyone
has an idea for the big push for "cyber warriors" in the united states.

By the arguments I'm hearing and milling through some of the other infosec
posts.  Who do you believe have more capability of cyber terror?  NSA?
Private industry?  Hell maybe there is already cyber pmc's running without
a leash.
On Jun 9, 2012 4:55 PM, "Jason Hellenthal" <jhellenthal@...aix.net> wrote:

>
> Funny, I think I meant to add any system I own. I am all about DTRT and
> support my government in any which way needed but creating shells on
> systems I don't own is not my business.
>
> On Sat, Jun 09, 2012 at 04:07:39PM +0300, John Doe wrote:
> > By any chance, Jason Hellenthal, do you work for the NOVO medical group?
> Or
> > is it just NOVO1?
> >
> > I'm asking, because you saying what you say there below, indicates that
> you
> > may pose a security problem for some health related medical information
> on
> > people that should be of no interest to NSA or national security.
> > You know, there are such things as due process. And you saying you're
> > willing to give access
> > to anyone from NSA to all systems you have access to is a pretty tall
> deal,
> > when you're the IT guy for a corporation. Someone might feel you're
> > betraying their trust and even working against their interest when
> > willingly allowing the abuse of their systems, be it for "right or wrong"
> > for whatever clandestine purpose.
> >
> > There should be a global NO-HIRE list for guys like you.
> >
> > On Sat, Jun 9, 2012 at 4:56 AM, Jason Hellenthal <jhellenthal@...aix.net
> >wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Shit, Ill give the NSA a shell on any system... if it means achieving a
> > > greater goal. Whether its wrong or not... let the bots decide who is
> the
> > > better player as long as it brings the US into a primary position of
> > > power.
> > >
> > > On Wed, Jun 06, 2012 at 11:22:32PM -0400, Laurelai wrote:
> > > > On 6/6/12 2:23 PM, Peter Dawson wrote:
> > > > > haha..da retrun of da "farewell dossier" !!
> > > > >
> > > > > On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 2:21 PM, coderman <coderman@...il.com
> > > > > <mailto:coderman@...il.com>> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > >     On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 11:16 AM, coderman <coderman@...il.com
> > > > >     <mailto:coderman@...il.com>> wrote:
> > > > >     > ... uncle sam has been up in yer SCADA for
> > > > >     > two decades.
> > > > >
> > > > >     three decades; too early for maths!
> > > > >
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