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Date: Sat, 04 Aug 2012 10:20:00 -0400
From: Gary Baribault <gary@...ibault.net>
To: full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk
Subject: Re: some distros for Raspberry Pi have sshd
 enabled and default logins.

The default install shouldn't allow root access to SSHd. Should force
password changes to default logins and have a list of allowed SSH users.
Purchasers of PI computers aren't necessarily Linux gurus.

Gary Baribault

On 08/04/2012 10:12 AM, larry Cashdollar wrote:
> My argument is they should prompt the user to change the password, not
> provide an insecure image
> With the expectations that users will secure it themselves. It maybe
> obvious to us, but with a good deal
> Of the audience being inexperienced users it should be part of the
> install.
>
>
> Larry C$
>
> On Aug 4, 2012, at 8:55 AM, rancor <therancor@...il.com
> <mailto:therancor@...il.com>> wrote:
>
>> No shit Sherlock!
>>
>> On Aug 4, 2012 3:38 AM, "larry Cashdollar" <larry0@...com
>> <mailto:larry0@...com>> wrote:
>>
>>     Vapid Labs
>>     Larry W. Cashdollar
>>     8/2/2012
>>
>>
>>     Since a some RaspberryPi users maybe unaware of the security implications of sshd I thought I should just make a note of some issues.
>>
>>     RaspberryPi image Occidentalis v0.1
>>
>>     >From the site:
>>
>>     "Adafruit <3 Raspberry Pi - especially how easy it is to hack circuits using the electronics breakout pins! But sadly, the latest official 
>>     distro "July 15 Raspbian Wheezy" did not have many of the delicious hackables built in. That's why we decided to roll our own 
>>
>>     distribution. 
>>
>>     Our distro is based on "Wheezy" but comes with hardware SPI, I2C, one wire, and WiFi support for our wifi adapters. It also has 
>>     some things to make overall hacking easier such sshd on startup (with key generation on first boot) and  Bonjour (so you can simply 
>>
>>     ssh raspberrypi.local from any computer on the local network)"
>>
>>     Enables ssh by default but doesn't prompt user to change root & pi account passwords. 
>>
>>     http://learn.adafruit.com/adafruit-raspberry-pi-educational-linux-distro/occidentalis-v0-dot-1
>>
>>     Arch Linux ARM
>>
>>     "Arch Linux ARM is based on Arch Linux, which aims for simplicity and full control to the end user. Note that this distribution may not 
>>     be suitable for beginners."
>>
>>     Default login of root/root with sshd enabled, doesn't prompt to change password.
>>
>>     http://downloads.raspberrypi.org/images/archlinuxarm/archlinuxarm-13-06-2012/archlinuxarm-13-06-2012.zip
>>
>>     If your going to enabled sshd by default please prompt the user to change the default password upon first boot. If your going to connect 
>>     these PIs to a network be sure to use secure passwords.
>>
>>
>>     http://vapid.dhs.org/advisories/raspberrypi_image_security.txt
>>
>>
>>
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