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Date: Sun, 14 Jul 2013 13:52:44 +0200
From: Alex <fd@...oo.de>
To: Moshe Israel <moshe.israel@...ee.co.il>,
 "Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu" <Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu>
Cc: "full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk" <full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>
Subject: Re: Abusing Windows 7 Recovery Process

Discussion is drifting away. It is a nice discovery but nothing with big 
impact.



Am 14. Juli 2013 08:27:23 schrieb Moshe Israel <moshe.israel@...ee.co.il>:
> My response was to "how many system implement such controls".
>
> You could however (since u have access) disconnect the network cable, 
> replace magnify wt cmd etc. add admin, replace the cmd back and reconnect.
> Solved?? :)
>
> On Jul 13, 2013, at 11:49 PM, Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu wrote:
>
> > On Sat, 13 Jul 2013 22:13:38 +0300, Moshe Israel said:
> >> All secured/regulated systems as required by most 
> certifications/standards/best practices.
> > You're new in the industry, aren't you? :)
> > The point you're missing is that the vast majority of computers aren't 
> covered
> > by said certifications and standards.  And most of the certifications are
> > merely a money grab by the auditors - the last numbers I found, something 
> like
> > 98% of breaches of systems that were covered by PCI were of systems that at
> > the time of the breach were PCI-compliant.  In  other words, being PCI 
> compliant
> > didn't actually slow the attackers down one bit.
> > You social engineer your way into the 5th office building you pass, pick a
> > random PC on the 4th floor - I'll bet you that PC is probably *not* running
> > sufficient monitoring to detect an intruder rebooting it and messing with
> > the system.


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