full-disclosure - Re: EE BrightBox router hacked

lists.openwall.net		lists / announce owl-users owl-dev john-users john-dev passwdqc-users yescrypt popa3d-users / oss-security kernel-hardening musl sabotage tlsify passwords / crypt-dev xvendor / Bugtraq Full-Disclosure linux-kernel linux-netdev linux-ext4 linux-hardening linux-cve-announce PHC
Open Source and information security mailing list archives

Hash Suite: Windows password security audit tool. GUI, reports in PDF.

[<prev] [next>] [<thread-prev] [thread-next>] [day] [month] [year] [list]

Date: Thu, 16 Jan 2014 13:02:32 -0500
From: Jeffrey Walton <noloader@...il.com>
To: Valdis Kletnieks <Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu>
Cc: "full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk" <full-disclosure@...ts.grok.org.uk>
Subject: Re: EE BrightBox router hacked - bares all if you
 ask nicely

On Thu, Jan 16, 2014 at 12:44 PM,  <Valdis.Kletnieks@...edu> wrote:
> On Thu, 16 Jan 2014 11:30:18 +0000, Dan Ballance said:
>
>> So your point is that there should be legislation to require companies to
>> adhere to certain security standards? I'd support that - particularly in an
>> ISP market which is clearly defined by national boundaries and law.
>
> OK.. What standard do you want to hoist as a legal mandate?
No standards are needed. Attach a nominal dollar amount to the data.
That will unbalance the risk equations and the industry will act on
its own.

For example, if it takes 2 hours to reset  to all your passwords
(password reuse is rampant), then allow a consumer to recover $250 for
their time. If PII is lost allow them damages of 7 years of credit
reporting (about $150) plus actual damages from any loss.

Hell, I had to overnight a credit card last summer while on business
that was cancelled due to a breach. That cost me $75.00. Perhaps
triple damages are in order, too.

> Bonus points for finding a standard that provides enough *actual* security
> that it is worth doing...
+1

> ... but yet won't bankrupt the industry.
Computing is a privilege, not a right.

Should Sony continue to be allowed to compute when they suffered at
least 50 incidents, including dataloss
(http://attrition.org/security/rants/sony_aka_sownage.html)? Hell,
Sony suffered 7 different incidents in one month
(http://www.thetechherald.com/article.php/201121/7185/Seven-security-incidents-in-two-months-Sony-s-nightmare-grows).

How much time an aggravation have they caused to institutions and consumers?

That's driving drunk on the information superhighway.

Jeff

_______________________________________________
Full-Disclosure - We believe in it.
Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html
Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/