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Date:	Thu, 23 Jul 2009 12:00:19 -0500
From:	Eric Sandeen <sandeen@...hat.com>
To:	Frank Mayhar <fmayhar@...gle.com>
CC:	Andreas Dilger <adilger@....com>,
	Curt Wohlgemuth <curtw@...gle.com>,
	ext4 development <linux-ext4@...r.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Question on fallocate/ftruncate sequence

Frank Mayhar wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-07-22 at 22:05 -0500, Eric Sandeen wrote:
>> Frank Mayhar wrote:
>>> On Tue, 2009-07-21 at 15:54 -0600, Andreas Dilger wrote:
>> ...
>>
>>>> That said, we might need to have some kind of flag in the on-disk
>>>> inode to indicate that it was preallocated beyond EOF.  Otherwise,
>>>> e2fsck will try and extend the file size to match the block count,
>>>> which isn't correct.  We could also use this flag to determine if
>>>> truncate needs to be run on the inode even if the new size is the
>>>> same.
>>> After chatting with Curt about this today, it sounds like this needs two
>>> things.  One is your flag in the on-disk inode, set in fallocate() to
>>> indicate that it has an allocation past EOF.  E2fsck would use this to
>>> avoid "fixing" the file size to match the block count.  Truncate would
>>> use this to notice that there are blocks allocated past i_size and get
>>> rid of them.  It would be cleared by truncate or by ext4_get_blocks when
>>> using the last block of such an allocation.
>>>
>>> Does this make sense?  Have I missed anything?
>> I guess I'm not totally sold on the new on-disk flag; we can work out
>> blocks past EOF w/o needing a new flag can't we?
> 
> It's on-disk because e2fsck needs it to know when not to extend i_size
> to the actual allocated length of the file.  Were it not for that we
> could easily solve the fallocate/trucate problem with an in-memory flag
> only.

Sorry I skimmed to fast, skipped over the fsck part.  But:

# mkfs.ext4 /dev/sdb3
mke2fs 1.41.5 (23-Apr-2009)
...
# mount /dev/sdb3 /mnt/test
# touch /mnt/test/testfile
# /root/fallocate -n -l 16m /mnt/test/testfile
# ls -l /mnt/test/testfile
-rw-r--r-- 1 root root 0 Jul 23 12:13 /mnt/test/testfile
# du -h /mnt/test/testfile
16M	/mnt/test/testfile
# umount /mnt/test
# e2fsck -f /dev/sdb3
e2fsck 1.41.5 (23-Apr-2009)
Pass 1: Checking inodes, blocks, and sizes
Pass 2: Checking directory structure
Pass 3: Checking directory connectivity
Pass 4: Checking reference counts
Pass 5: Checking group summary information
/dev/sdb3: 12/244800 files (0.0% non-contiguous), 37766/977956 blocks

there doesn't seem to be a problem in fsck w/ block past EOF, or am I
missing something else?

-Eric
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